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jduga
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
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 Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: Masters of Business Administration...need it? |
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Hey all-
I am 24 years old and about 1/2 way through with my MBA in International Marketing. I already have a Bachelor's in Business Economics from a fairly good school in the US. I am looking to gain employment in a university in Korea, Japan or maybe Thailand. My questions are, is an MBA necessary...because, I would love to be able to land a university job now without it...and...will the MBA help me to get a University job and what is the best way to try and find a "higher" education job in these countries? Thanks in advance. PS...I have lived in Thailand as a Muay Thai fighter but only spent a few days in other parts of Asia... |
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write of weigh
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: |
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An MBA is good to have to fall back on and since ur young and half way through it i absolutely encourage you to finish. But as far as finding a job in Korea is concerned its not a major requirement. Your much better off having alittle Korea experience, and being young, likeable and the fairly presentable. Although if your really attractive, like me  , almost anywhere will hire you-shallow, i know, but reality here.
btw, I think this is the zillionth time this type of thread has been posted. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| if u are 1/2 way through, go ahead and finish it! It'll be the best thing you ever do. A year or whatever it takes to finish it is a very short time. |
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mspencer1983
Joined: 17 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| write of weigh wrote: |
| Your much better off having alittle Korea experience, and being young, likeable and the fairly presentable. Although if your really attractive, like me , almost anywhere will hire you-shallow, i know, but reality here. |
did you actually just say that!? you're an idiot |
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write of weigh
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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well, msspencer, or should i say Mike, u know very little about korea and from ur previous posts i can c u like to fight. Im going to leave it like this to the OP: consider the source. Ive been successfully teaching here at a uni for years, msspencer is asking advice about very basic questions in how to get a hagwon job teaching adults, oh my! 
ps-Mike, an idiot posts his name on a public forum |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I would consider where it is you are getting your MBA. If its from Pudunk University, then I'd ditch the MBA. If its from a top 50 MBA program then definitely stick with it. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| write of weigh wrote: |
| Your much better off having alittle Korea experience, and being young, likeable and the fairly presentable. Although if your really attractive, like me , almost anywhere will hire you-shallow, i know, but reality here. |
Actually that is ONLY good if you want to work in the hogwans. They aren't that interested in students learning English, they are just interested in making as much $$ as they can from you. (However, for them to make the ultimate $$ from you, which is their purpose, they'll have you work as many possible hours as you'll let them get away). Generally they also prefer and often give inexperienced hogwan teachers ZERO days of vacation a year.
The OP is better off getting his MBA and using that as leverage for getting a university job with the 5 months of paid vacation and only working 12-15 hours a week. (OP still might need some ESL experience to land a uni gig, but it's better than just floating around with a BA teaching hogwan jobs without future leverage). |
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write of weigh
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
Actually that is ONLY good if you want to work in the hogwans. They aren't that interested in students learning English, they are just interested in making as much $$ as they can from you. (However, for them to make the ultimate $$ from you, which is their purpose, they'll have you work as many possible hours as you'll let them get away).
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geez man, with the generalizations u make how can anyone take u seriously? For the record, Ive worked pt with a fantastic hagwon director for 2 years now.
I think you guys downplay, ok, i know u downplay the emphasis on the look. The advantage of an MA in the west vs Korea is completely different. The advantage of an MA in korea is slight. Few guys i work with have a graduate degree and they make about 100k-200k more a month. Same exact job. Big f'in deal.
To get hired, the pic on the resume is the first thing scrutinized. For my uni, if there is no pic, the resume goes straight into the garbage. If the person looks strange, into the garbage; This is straight from the horses mouth. Granted maybe not all uni's, but if u asked me which has more clout here as a foreigner: having the right look or an MBA. Sry id have to go with having the right look. (and yes I guess nationality/skin is involved)
When i first came to korea i was in a hagwon, a black guy and an obese guy tried applying to the school, and the hagwons response was basically hell no. They even took the pictures that they sent and were passing them around and having a laugh. Yeah, that was a strange day.
Dont u see the mirrors everywhere: elevators, hand mirrors. Girls in my class pull out these oversized mirrors and put makeup on while im teaching. These women dress up everday like they are going to a ball. Guys always in suits. Its the culture, a strong emphasis on looking good.
They do have an interesting saying in Korean which I guess does hold some truth. They say, when ur 40 uve earned the face uve got.
Not to belabored the point nor hijack the thread, but if u dont understand this point, u just dont know korean culture well.
It may make an interesting thread. |
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's obvious you didn't get hired based on your writing. I'm not one to criticize normally, but you basically sound like you're 14 or so. I'm assuming that because you sound like the kids I play World of Warcraft with.
Bear in mind, I'm not saying your balls haven't dropped yet. Just saying you sound like that on here. |
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write of weigh
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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sry aarontendo, were u the obese guy? They didnt laugh too hard  |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| I know a guy with an E-1 visa teaching business English at a good univ. because he has an MBA. It can definitely be a plus. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:46 am Post subject: |
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There are several people (including myself) that have an MBA and are teaching in Korea. I'm going to be teaching at a university for the next year and they expressed interest in me because of my degree and want me to work with students in the MBA program.
I would finish your degree and then apply for jobs both in Korea and other places as well. |
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