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Is 30 teaching hours/week too much for a college job?

 
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EMKAYES



Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Is 30 teaching hours/week too much for a college job? Reply with quote

Would you take this job?

-30 teaching hours per week
-3 night time classes per week, 7pm-9pm
-4 weeks vacation
-no bonus
-no flights paid for
-2.5-2.8m per month
-med and ins. 50/50


Any thoughts? Does this sound a little too much for too little?
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's insane.

Let's compare to a current public school gig:

2.3
18 hours/week in class
6 weeks vacation
airfare
bonus
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lucas_p



Joined: 17 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with crazy_arcade, there are much better choices out there....

The pay doesn't quite justify the hours (at the uni level, anyways), and there aren't any bonuses. Usually, universities are quite apt at giving bonuses and long vacation time (2+ months a year).
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EMKAYES



Joined: 04 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure about the 6 weeks vacation at public school C-Arcade?

But the hours sure are long and the vacation short even if the pay is high.

I just wonder if it is worth doing for a year to then get a better position at another college/university?
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Is 30 teaching hours/week too much for a college job? Reply with quote

EMKAYES wrote:
Would you take this job?

Hell's NO! A howgan split schedule at a uni? F that noise! Anything more than 16 contact hours per week, pass on.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a uniwon.... Laughing
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is housing provided?

It would then be ok with 2.8 plus housing, but the workload sucks.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EMKAYES wrote:
I'm not sure about the 6 weeks vacation at public school C-Arcade?

But the hours sure are long and the vacation short even if the pay is high.

I just wonder if it is worth doing for a year to then get a better position at another college/university?


Depending on which system you are in 14-21 WORKING days vacation (3-4 weeks) + 2 weeks for a home visit (paid vacation + airfare) if you renew = five to six weeks paid vacation + national holidays + assorted other days off.

Depending on experience, qualifications and supplimental (afternoon) classes (max class load of 28 per week) the salaries can run over 3 million per month + housing (all within the 40 hour, 9-5 work week).

++ airfare, 50/50 pension, 50/50 medical, severance (contract completion bonus).

AND to the OP.... not paying the severance (bonus) is illegal unless you are enrolled in an equivalent private pension plan (allowed at some private universties).

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makemischief



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's even dismal for a unigwon.

that said: it is a step above many, but certainly not all, hagwons.

it really depends what your comparison is with.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems like most univ jobs have more the 4 weeks vacation (at least the one I accepted did). The pay is high, but so is the amount of hours you'd be working. They should pay return airfare and as tom pointed out severence.

I'd say no.
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