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write of weigh

Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Mars
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:07 am Post subject: Give Ron Paul 25 dollars |
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Im just not a political person, but damn it, I like this guy�s message.
Ive never given money to a candidate before, until today.
Ron Paul�s crystal clear message: Back to the Constitution
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FG2PUZoukfA
1. Commerce with all, Alliances with none
2. Stop Policing the World
3. Lower taxes
4. Smaller Government
5. Get out of Iraq!
Im Sold. And now im selling.
https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: |
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With your help he could run third party. |
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write of weigh

Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Mars
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Joo Rip, im not going to argue with you bud. I agree to disagree with you and respect you and your views as a fellow countryman.
Bottom line Im sure we want the same outcome for our country. I just think its time for another approach. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:45 am Post subject: |
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It's all about momentum and growth. If Ron Paul's growth keeps up, he will be in the top 3 among Republicans in fundraising in the 4th quarter. This will be especially likely if the others' support keeps falling.
Good for you for donating Write of Weigh, my plan is to send a large donation in December. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:50 am Post subject: |
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write of weigh wrote: |
Joo Rip, im not going to argue with you bud. I agree to disagree with you and respect you and your views as a fellow countryman.
Bottom line Im sure we want the same outcome for our country. I just think its time for another approach. |
Well I hope you have a you make so much money that you can donate 1000 dollars ( it won't make any difference in the end ) .Good luck in everything but politics.  |
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write of weigh

Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Location: Mars
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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ontheway wrote: |
It's all about momentum and growth. If Ron Paul's growth keeps up, he will be in the top 3 among Republicans in fundraising in the 4th quarter. |
Im surprised to see how much support hes getting on the internet, and frankly its encouraging; and rightly so.
He's not a wish-washy political machine running soley for ego. I mean give me a break, all these candidates are running to satisfy their enormous egos, so they have no message. Hillary, God bless er, who is she? zero content. I dont know one thing she stands for and shes been in the public eye for a good 20 years. Granted I don�t follow politics very closely, but after 20 years I should have picked up something on her. And same goes for the rest of the egomaniacs.
I�ve heard Ronney-boy just a few times and I know exactly where he stands on most of the pressing issues. Seems like a solid southern bloke, ta boot.
I actually gave more than 25 and im considering giving more. Momentum u say. anything else we can do? kinda new at this. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005 Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: |
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You can send info about Ron Paul to your friends and family. Only send it to those who might be interested. Just let others know in your regular letters that you are supporting Ron Paul. Don't argue with them about their views, just let them find out for themselves.
After you argue too much with people, like we do with Joo, they will never listen. Just give them the facts and let them think on their own. Don't be pushy.
Ron Paul is really a genuine, warm, friendly man. He is honest, caring and kind - a true gentleman. When you are with him in a private setting, small groups and one on one, you find that he has the same honest, warm values in private that you see in public. There is only one Ron Paul. He is the real deal. He is amazingly sharp and brilliant and has studied finance, the FED, economics etc. more than most PhDs in those fields.
When the American people finally get to know the real Ron Paul, the man, they will find him more warm and a better communicator than the other Ron (Reagan). He is warm and caring. He connects with people. You know you have the same goals and you can trust him. He's honest. And, he's smart and knows how to fix our problems and restore our liberty and prosperity. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I have a confession to make. I'm a Canadian and I gave $50 to his campaign last month!
His message of non-intervention, especially running as a Republican, was so refreshing I couldn't resist. I want his message heard.
It's actually quite amazing how far he's come so quickly. In the Spring, you'll recall he was excluded from a Republican speaking forum, and there was talk of not allowing him in debates. All that has gone away now, and his message is getting some of the loudest applause during the debates. Even Rudy has backed away from confronting him.
I hope every American who wants America to start believing in the spirit of the Constitution gives a donation to Paul. He is a true patriot, not the chicken hawks. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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You know I was thinking, "hmmm maybe Ron Paul has a shot" but then I actually looked at the polls. He's not even listed. Huckabee is doing better than him.
Reality check for you Paul fans |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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write of weigh wrote: |
Hillary, God bless er, who is she? zero content. I dont know one thing she stands for and shes been in the public eye for a good 20 years. |
Some of her proposals:
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Over the past few months, Hillary Clinton has issued a string of specific policy programs aimed directly at members of the aspiring middle class.
Yesterday, it was a tax credit for college. Earlier in the week, Clinton offered a plan to give families down the income scale access to 401(k)-style plans. Right now, 75 million workers have no employee-sponsored pension accounts. The way our tax code is structured, people up the income ladder get big tax incentives to save, while working people, who have the most trouble saving, get the smallest incentives.
Under the Clinton plan, if a family making up to $60,000 a year put $1,000 into a new 401(k) account, they would get a $1,000 matching tax credit. The plan would create millions of new investors. Struggling families could choose mutual fund options and participate in the capital markets. They�d be encouraged to move away from a month-to-month mentality to a saving-for-the-future mentality. |
From David Brooks column in today's NY Times |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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You know what's sad? A lot of people let polls and the media talk them out of who they will support in politics.
I think what is called for more than ever is a move away from the cynacism that has defined this generation.
I think Ron Paul has garnered a groundswell of support because he talks straight, and people who are so tired of the game that politicians play to get elected (like Hilary refusing to budge from her stand on the war).
What Ron Paul has done mostly though, is expose the gulf between what the majority of Americans want (and what the rest of the world wants, which is for America to stop invading other countries), and what politicans actually fight for. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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I would be happy to send Ron $25 or even $50...if I thought it would make him go away.
I'd like to mention one aspect about him that irritates me: His call to 'return to the Constitution'. This is disingenuous. We never left the Constitution. He is really saying he wants a different interpretation. In the terms that have been in use over 2 1/4 centuries, he is a strict (or narrow) constructionist. Nothing wrong with that. It is overstating the case to claim he is a constitutionalist and implying he is the only candidate who is. I may or may not like a candidate, but I don't challenge or suspect their loyalty to the Constitution and I distrust anyone who does.
I do suspect and distrust simplistic solutions to complex problems. An appeal for a smaller government is a simplistic solution, in my view. To use Newton a little loosely, there is a reaction for every action. What would be the consequences of a smaller government? Not universally good, in my opinion. Our ancestors created a big government to handle big problems. Strip away the government and you still have the original big problem. I'm not of the opinion that 'the market' has a solution for every situation. An example would be the business decisions that over-ride educational policies that we often see.
I also dislike his call for withdrawing from alliances. Alliances do not have to mean automatic involvement in other people's problems. Any ally can and does consider their own interests and uphold or ignore an alliance on a case by case basis. The up-side of an alliance is that a country has increased influence in the actions of its allies. You can't control them, but your views getter a more serious hearing. Currently, we're the 10 ton elephant in a room full of mice. I think it's reassuring to the mice that we let some of them at least lecture us before we do something. You can always ignore the mice after letting them have their say. After all, most of the time they are acting like frogs in a well. (I enjoy mixing metaphors.) |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject: ... |
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I enjoy Ron Paul's presence.
I like how people opposed to him have to repeatedly wave their hands at him.
He scares Republicans.
But, to fully fly my colors before the preceding year, I'm no lover of the mediocrity the Democrats will bring to the White House.
On the other hand, I like Ron Paul because he's proposing fiscal responsibility.
There are a whole boat-load of economic theories, but the concept that we can indefinitely deficit-spend with impunity is wrong.
In other words, we have a good 20+ years of pretending national debt doesn't matter, punctuated by the time Clinton tried to address this.
If the Democratic message is unclear, the GOP message is fiscal irresponsibility.
Short -term gains vs. long-term idiocy. |
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gk

Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Christmas!
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The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders� political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government�s hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.
The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation�s history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people�s allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation�s Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

Joined: 25 May 2003
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
I have a confession to make. I'm a Canadian and I gave $50 to his campaign last month!
His message of non-intervention, especially running as a Republican, was so refreshing I couldn't resist. I want his message heard.
It's actually quite amazing how far he's come so quickly. In the Spring, you'll recall he was excluded from a Republican speaking forum, and there was talk of not allowing him in debates. All that has gone away now, and his message is getting some of the loudest applause during the debates. Even Rudy has backed away from confronting him.
I hope every American who wants America to start believing in the spirit of the Constitution gives a donation to Paul. He is a true patriot, not the chicken hawks. |
I think it is against the law for presidential candidates to accept contributions from non US citizens for their campaigns.
At any rate I wouldn't be suprised if some of the money that Ron Paul 's campaign has come from non US citizens. |
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