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regicide
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JMO please grow up. People engaged in conspiratorial conduct - political murderers and assassins - aren't in the habit of leaving hard evidence of their complicity lying around for others to find.
It's bad for one's health in the event that the person is sent to prison for committing high crimes and misdemeanors.
I can not remember the last time when an Oswald-did-it-alone proponent was willing to step out of their childish, fairy-tale naivety and take this hard truth into account, that is if the thought ever occurred to them in the first place.
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If you have hundreds or thousands of people involved in a conspiracy, it is highly probable that someone would speak. Thats just a statistical fact. Nobody involved in the conspiracy talking for 40 years is highly improbable. |
Someone Would Have Talked...
if they had privileged information concerning the most infamous murder in modern history; talked with an unintentional slip, in a furtive intimate exchange, or perhaps with a boastful remark about their personal knowledge of a conspiracy in the murder of a President.
... And someone did�
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"They're going to kill him. They're going to kill him when he gets to Texas."
John Martino, former Cuban prisoner and anti-Castro activist
"We were getting all sorts of rumors that the President was going to be assassinated in Dallas; there were no ifs, ands or buts about it."
Marty Underwood, Democratic National Committee Political Advance Man
"Now there're going to find out about Cuba, the guns, New Orleans and everything"
Jack Ruby to His Jailer
"Washington's word to me was that it would hurt foreign relations if I alleged conspiracy - whether I could prove it or not. I was just to charge Oswald with plain murder and go for the death penalty. Johnson had Cliff Carter call me three or four times that weekend"
Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade
"If I told you what I really know, it would be very dangerous to the country. Our whole political system could be disrupted."
FBI Director Hoover In Response to Whether Or Not Oswald Had Killed the President
"Well, we took care of that S.O.B.�.
David Morales, former Chief of Operations, CIA Miami JM/WAVE
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| Why is DR. Wechts opinion ok but not the other experts? It was a government enquiry after all. Why do you get to pick and choose? |
Dr. Wecht and others uncover the lies contained in the Warren Report.
In any event , you were not paying attention JMO and as usual you just took a quick glance at the material presented to you.
That is why I believe you are just pimping me. But sometimes I don't think that you are pimping me and I just believe your are stupid. I can't make up my mind.
Because:
The Warren Commission ignored their own expert witnesses when they concluded that "All the evidence indicated that the bullet found on the Governor's stretcher could have caused all his wounds."
Where did they come from?
Dr. SHAW: All right. As far as the wounds of the chest are concerned, I feel that this bullet could have inflicted those wounds. But the examination of the wrist both by X-ray and at the time of surgery showed some fragments of metal that make it difficult to believe that the same missle could have caused these two wounds. There seems to be more that three grains of metal missing as far as the - I mean in the wrist.
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The Warren Commission ignored their own expert witnesses when they concluded that "All the evidence indicated that the bullet found on the Governor's stretcher could have caused all his wounds."
The Warren Commission has ignored a lot of evidence and eyewitness testimony in the case, including the Newman's testimony of the shot from the front.
If it is so unbelievable, why didn't they at least allow their testimony? Certainly they should have been considered an important witness in the case.
Were they afraid of something?
And the list could go on and on with the ignored or altered testimony in this case. |
the experts opinion i cited idn't come from the warren commission. rockefeller commission of 1975.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/headwnd.htm
on that page is the page numbers from the report. seriously i posted that testimony at least 3 times. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 1:46 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
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JMO please grow up. People engaged in conspiratorial conduct - political murderers and assassins - aren't in the habit of leaving hard evidence of their complicity lying around for others to find.
It's bad for one's health in the event that the person is sent to prison for committing high crimes and misdemeanors.
I can not remember the last time when an Oswald-did-it-alone proponent was willing to step out of their childish, fairy-tale naivety and take this hard truth into account, that is if the thought ever occurred to them in the first place.
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If you have hundreds or thousands of people involved in a conspiracy, it is highly probable that someone would speak. Thats just a statistical fact. Nobody involved in the conspiracy talking for 40 years is highly improbable. |
Someone Would Have Talked...
if they had privileged information concerning the most infamous murder in modern history; talked with an unintentional slip, in a furtive intimate exchange, or perhaps with a boastful remark about their personal knowledge of a conspiracy in the murder of a President.
... And someone did�
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"They're going to kill him. They're going to kill him when he gets to Texas."
John Martino, former Cuban prisoner and anti-Castro activist
"We were getting all sorts of rumors that the President was going to be assassinated in Dallas; there were no ifs, ands or buts about it."
Marty Underwood, Democratic National Committee Political Advance Man
"Now there're going to find out about Cuba, the guns, New Orleans and everything"
Jack Ruby to His Jailer
"Washington's word to me was that it would hurt foreign relations if I alleged conspiracy - whether I could prove it or not. I was just to charge Oswald with plain murder and go for the death penalty. Johnson had Cliff Carter call me three or four times that weekend"
Dallas District Attorney Henry Wade
"If I told you what I really know, it would be very dangerous to the country. Our whole political system could be disrupted."
FBI Director Hoover In Response to Whether Or Not Oswald Had Killed the President
"Well, we took care of that S.O.B.�.
David Morales, former Chief of Operations, CIA Miami JM/WAVE
http://www.larry-hancock.com/about.html |
sorry some extremely ambiguous statements don't cut it. thousands of people were involved. confessions on who ran the conspiracy, what was their job on the day..etc, etc, etc.
'we took care of that S.O.B.' just doesn't cut it.
they are only single sentences with no context. this is the best you got after 40 years...
really, 40 years and you have a handful of ambiguous statements..40 years..im sure i could go through 40 years of quotes and make a conspiracy of my own...lol.
give me one person who was involved in the conspiracy who can tell how they were involved, what they did, who they answered to...and can prove it.. stuff like that. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| Did you take this test, or just quickly refer to your precious McAdams? |
But can we agree that bullet 399 was not in 'perfect condition'?
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| As I stated before, if your mind is made up, McAdams will always be there for you. |
He is my rock.
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| So what is the point of our ping-pong dialogue, ED209? |
Happy to quit when you are. Two pages to go.
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| And you are also given sworn testimony from attending emergency room personnel telling you that there are even more fragments left in the Governor's body. |
Sure, 'twenty-two such slices could have been
produced from the 1.2 grains of metal'
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Your mission: To pinpoint exactly where on this bullet all these fragments came from. The Warren Commission concluded that all these fragments came from CE-399. Their whole case is based on the "single bullet theory."
If you can see where the fragments came from, then you prove the Warren Commission's case.
But if you cannot see defects in CE-399 to account for the fragments shown and testified to, then you have just destroyed the Warren Commission's findings in their Report. |
Well that's scientific. |
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itaewonguy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:04 am Post subject: |
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| IM kinda suprised by Jackie O I mean her husband just shot in the neck , and he holds his hand up, they all kinda know something has happend, but he is not died yet! its so quick! the death shot comes like 1 second after, and the shot to the face doesnt leave a mark on Jackie, and she just lets him go and then climbs on the back of the car! what is she thinking??? shouldnt she of got down in the car??? climbing on the back of the car puts her in serious danger |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: |
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Not only that but it's like she's holding him in place to allow Oswald to get
a better shot. Take a look at the Zapruder film. JFK is trying to dive for
cover and here's Jackie holding him in place for a better shot. Then it's
like my jobs done I'm outta here. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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The cons[iracy nuts never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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Not only that but it's like she's holding him in place to allow [Oswald ] to get
a better shot. Take a look at the Zapruder film. JFK is trying to dive for
cover and here's Jackie holding him in place for a better shot. Then it's
like my jobs done I'm outta here. |
Excuse me. Oswald? James Files. Tippet (badge man) , the Corsican guy. All the alleged FRONTAL shooters. You can not say Oswald.
Kennedy's brains were splattered all over the back of the car. Now how could they get there with a shot from the back?
You know how Gary Mack, spokesman for the Sixth Floor Museum explains that?
Oh, um the wind blew his brains back. But Gary they were virtually stopped or at the most 11 MPH at the time. There is wind from that? Well. um. Um ah... So KEnnedy took a shot from behind and the brains that flew out went backwards! Um . ah yes , that's right.
ME: Gary you guys are something else. ( bold face liers for the government)
Gary: I resent that.
They do not deny that his brains were on the back of the car. Jackie picked some of them up and gave them to SSA Hill.
So how did they get on the BACK of the Limousine?
The spin doctors would have you believe there was a shot from the behind yet , Kennedy's brains blew back to the rear of the limousine behind him, again, in the opposite direction.
Kennedy's brains were in the back of the limousine because they blew out the (exit wound) in the back of his head.
How much more fucking unbelievable can this thing be before you idiots see what happened?
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regicide
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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The cons[iracy nuts never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
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Facts: smart ass.
So how did Kennedy's brains get to the back of the limousine. That is what Mrs. Kennedy was doing when she went to the back of the limousine.
That is a FACT
Another fact is that none of the Secret Service Agents came to the aid of the dying President. In FACT Emory Roberts, who called off the two Agents at Love Field, called back an Agent running to the aid of Kennedy.
Yes, that is right and a FACT.
FACT is the limousine slowed down and came to a near halt.
That is a FACT.
FACT is Agent Kellerman in the front seat of the limousine just sat there ( and looked back at the dying president)
The FACT is that Kellerman had SIX seconds to jump into the back seat and knock both Connely and the President down and out of harms way.
Instead , United States Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman just SAT THERE in the front seat while shots are flying all around the POTUS.
Tell me this is the behaviour you would expect from people whose sole function of their existance is to protect the president. Then when shots are fired they do NOTHING. JUST SIT THERE! |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
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The cons[iracy nuts never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
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Facts: smart ass.
So how did Kennedy's brains get to the back of the limousine. That is what Mrs. Kennedy was doing when she went to the back of the limousine.
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What was Mrs.Kennedy doing?
And how is this a fact?
And my arms are getting tired from whacking all these moles 
Kennedy's head exploded in all directions, in the frames you can also see it spray forward, and yes wind can blow spray in any direction.
link |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Once again, thanks for the picture of the windshield.
Several people , including a Parkland Hospital intern and a Ford Motor company employee ( a glass specialist) have stated that the bullet's entry was from the front.
Thanks.
FYI: Chunks of Kennedy's brain ended up in the back of the limo.
Spin it any way you want.
There was no wind according to the weather reports that day. ( fact) and the car was at a near halt.
But now you have a got a bigger problem, the bullet hole that came from the front.
First public showing of the Zapruder film:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DwKK4rkeEM |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| contrarian wrote: |
The cons[iracy nuts never let the facts get in the way of a good rant.
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Facts: smart ass.
So how did Kennedy's brains get to the back of the limousine. That is what Mrs. Kennedy was doing when she went to the back of the limousine.
That is a FACT
Another fact is that none of the Secret Service Agents came to the aid of the dying President. In FACT Emory Roberts, who called off the two Agents at Love Field, called back an Agent running to the aid of Kennedy.
Yes, that is right and a FACT.
FACT is the limousine slowed down and came to a near halt.
That is a FACT.
FACT is Agent Kellerman in the front seat of the limousine just sat there ( and looked back at the dying president)
The FACT is that Kellerman had SIX seconds to jump into the back seat and knock both Connely and the President down and out of harms way.
Instead , United States Secret Service Agent Roy Kellerman just SAT THERE in the front seat while shots are flying all around the POTUS.
Tell me this is the behaviour you would expect from people whose sole function of their existance is to protect the president. Then when shots are fired they do NOTHING. JUST SIT THERE! |
So you agree that Jackie was in on it then?
The brain matter was on Jackies hands when she jump on the back of hte car. |
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ED209
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| Once again, thanks for the picture of the windshield. |
What now? Where's this picture?
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| Several people , including a Parkland Hospital intern and a Ford Motor company employee ( a glass specialist) have stated that the bullet's entry was from the front. |
How did they come to this conclusion? What forensic experience or knowledge do they have?
Eh...you're welcome?
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FYI: Chunks of Kennedy's brain ended up in the back of the limo.
Spin it any way you want. |
Dude that brain exploded, it went everywhere! But as you can see in the film most went forward.
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| There was no wind according to the weather reports that day. ( fact) and the car was at a near halt. |
Zero air movement or light breezes? Now that is a unusual.
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| But now you have a got a bigger problem, the bullet hole that came from the front. |
Yes, that claim is very problematic since no-one's proved it happened.
Interesting, let's not bring Geraldo into this. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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ET Said: "What now? Where's this picture? "
and " Yes, that claim is very problematic since no-one's proved it happened. "
1) In your link , that says "link"
The picture of the limousine at Parkland Hospital.
2) It was proven by a glass experts' statement.
Do some research please. You will find out that an intern working there could see it was a bullet hole from the front. But , I know , she was mistaken, crazy , had an alterior motive, and was not an expert.
But how about the glass expert at Ford Motor Company who replaced the windshield and was ordered to scrap the damaged one? In his expert opinion , it was a bullet hole from the front.
Clark Kent said: "The brain matter was on Jackies hands when she jump on the back of hte car."
No Superman, she went to the back of the car to retrieve her husband's brains. |
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