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new requests to verify degrees... just a GEPIK thing?

 
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: new requests to verify degrees... just a GEPIK thing? Reply with quote

Hi all

I just read the thread on this. My co-teacher asked me today if I could provide access for her of my uni's database so she could see an alumni list. She said she thinks this is the first time that immigration has done this.

I understand why they're doing it but they don't seem to understand that most western countries have privacy laws against this kind of thing.

In any case, has anyone emailed Dain Bae or Wenise Kim about this? I know they went to school in Australia and New Zealand. I seriously doubt that their universities would provide such a thing for just anyone to log on and check out.

Paper documents are no longer enough in Korea. I'm guessing there are still heaps of foreign teachers here who entered with fake degrees. Now we're all paying the price.
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thu_tinh



Joined: 27 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just got this memo this morning and I told my coteacher no way i can show her on the internet. I told her to tell the school board to call my University if they want to.
she responded: how about you edit the page? i think they only need to see your name so make one up. Shocked
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Snowkr



Joined: 03 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, some schools have a special database for employers to access and verify that documents are authentic. The university I graduated from in Australia does not have this.

The ministry of education (Gyeongi) said they will accept an email from the school registrar today after my co-teacher called them. I suppose they could always change their mind...
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xCustomx



Joined: 06 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole thing is a joke for those of who have already verified our degrees multiple times. I've brought in my diploma and sealed transcripts to both school and immigration twice before. I didn't make a big deal of the request I got yesterday since it's quite easy to go my university's website and get an unofficial transcript page printed out. I did however ask if the reason for all the degree checking was because of all the Koreans who have lied about their degrees
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Lockness



Joined: 03 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My co-teacher just hit me up about this too, but I just went to my University's Alumni site, looked up the date of graduation and printed it off, it was 20 pages long, but my name was on it. Of course this might not be enough for the Masters of the Universe or my principal "Skeletor" but we'll see.
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m8888888



Joined: 10 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked up my name in the alumni directory, and printed out my page with my name and date of graduation. You have to be an actual alumni to log into that page, so they can't go to the internet & access it themselves, but I guess the print out is enough (although it would totally be easy to fake, so I don't think it proves much...). My co-teacher said it was enough. She also said it was because of Koreans forging degrees, and apologized like 20 times that I had to do it.
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xox



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm having difficulties doing this.
I go on the website and the page that would have my name (filed under M to N) does not exist. There are other pages that have been erased and some that are still there.
Why do we have to do this? It's just a bunch of names it doesn't really prove anything -- I think anyways.
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xox wrote:
m having difficulties doing this.
I go on the website and the page that would have my name (filed under M to N) does not exist. There are other pages that have been erased and some that are still there.


You might be able to find the page using this site:

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

I was having the same problem but found the list of grads (with me on it) from convocation.

Because a new set of transcripts sent from my uni directly to the education office "isn't good enough", a letter from the registrar sent from my uni directly to the education office "isn't good enough", the best I can come up with is the list of students with my name on it from convocation. If that's "not good enough" I'll point to the phone number on my transcripts and see what happens.
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icnelly



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

m8888888 wrote:
I looked up my name in the alumni directory, and printed out my page with my name and date of graduation. You have to be an actual alumni to log into that page, so they can't go to the internet & access it themselves, but I guess the print out is enough (although it would totally be easy to fake, so I don't think it proves much...). My co-teacher said it was enough.


Same-same; CT did some snazzy cut and copy thing to freeze the image into a .bmp and printed it out that way. Not sure exactly what the procedure is beyond that. She said the picture and a verification through the website:

www.studentclearinghouse.org
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish this would happen at every single hogwan in Korea. The illegal teachers are in hagwon, not public schools.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My university has absolutely no online information re: graduates; I assume because of the Canadian Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (how's that for oxymoronic?). However, for $15.00 they will send me a Certificate of Degree Completion - if I print out the application form, sign it (in blood Wink ) and mail it to them. I'm not doing that!

The last time I was asked to confirm I had a degree was almost two years ago. I took my degree to work, made a photocopy and gave it to them. Of course, that proved absolutely nothing but they were happy because I appeared to be jumping through some sort of hoop. Rolling Eyes
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diploma and sealed transcripts mean nothing. Do you honestly think degree fakers are stupid enough to fake a degree and not fake the transcripts?

Your transcripts are not some holy writ sent from the heavens. It's a stupid envelope that has an ink stamp on it. Its not that hard to make a fake transcript, stuff it into an envelope, seal it, and then put a rubber stamp over the flap that says "OFFICIAL".

Why in the world are people making a big deal out of this. It took me 5 minutes to verify everything with my school.

BTW, back home in the US, you have no privacy in the workplace. Every e-mail and website you visit is logged and tracked. I know people who's sole job is to sift through people's emails.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

icnelly wrote:
Same-same; CT did some snazzy cut and copy thing to freeze the image into a .bmp and printed it out that way. Not sure exactly what the procedure is beyond that. She said the picture and a verification through the website:

www.studentclearinghouse.org


That website has a "printer friendly" option. It launches a new window with the verification document in PDF.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
It took me 5 minutes to verify everything with my school.


Me to, bro..... Very Happy
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