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Paji eh Wong
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 Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: How stupid were these people? |
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Oct. 12, 2007 | While the Bush White House promotes the possibility of armed conflict with Iran, a tantalizing passage in Wesley Clark's new memoir suggests that another war is part of a long-planned Department of Defense strategy that anticipated "regime change" by force in no fewer than seven Mideast states. Critics of the war have often voiced suspicions of such imperial schemes, but this is the first time that a high-ranking former military officer has claimed to know that such plans existed.
The existence of that classified memo would certainly cast more dubious light not only on the original decision to invade Iraq because of Saddam Hussein's weapons and ambitions but on the current efforts to justify and even instigate military action against Iran.
In "A Time to Lead: For Duty, Honor and Country," published by Palgrave Macmillan last month, the former four-star general recalls two visits to the Pentagon following the terrorist attacks of September 2001. On the first visit, less than two weeks after Sept. 11, he writes, a "senior general" told him, "We're going to attack Iraq. The decision has basically been made." |
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/10/12/wesley_clark/
Good God, were the neocons really that naive and arrogant? Seven countries? I mean, I know the source isn't the best, but Jesus. That is crazy talk. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Good God, were the neocons really that naive and arrogant? |
I'd like to know more about it, but I can believe they were that arrogant. After all, a very popular game when we were all in college (I am the same age as the governing class) was RISK. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: |
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In their defense the US has argubly been in a kind of war with several of those nations. And everyone saw how East Europe change when the Soviet Union failed.
and in Lebanon there has been something close to a regime change. Iran would be in big trouble and vunerable to regime change if the price of oil was 25 dollars a barrel instead of 84 dollars.
and the US has come close to getting regime change in 20% -30% of Iraq. The Kurdish areas. They are pretty close to what the US envisioned before the second Iraq war. |
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Tony_Balony
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| In the US gov't, there are thousands of people called "analysts". They make attack plans and regime change plans for every nation. Its alot of busy work. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:32 am Post subject: |
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Iran, Syria, Saidia Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya...?
Who di you think these seven nations are? |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Good question.
The excerpt mentions Clark's visits were in Sept. '01, so...
Afghanistan
Iraq
Iran
Syria
Lebanon
For the other two, maybe:
Libya
Sudan (not really ME, but...) |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Yemen? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| blaseblasphemener wrote: |
| Yemen? |
PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERIKAN CENTURY (PNAC)
9/11 was the " ... catalyzing Pearl Harbor-like event ... " these criminals had been preying for 
If you're interested read Brezinski's GRAND CHESSBOARD. |
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