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ED209
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ET Said: "What now? Where's this picture? "
and " Yes, that claim is very problematic since no-one's proved it happened. "
1) In your link , that says "link"
The picture of the limousine at Parkland Hospital.
2) It was proven by a glass experts' statement.
Do some research please. You will find out that an intern working there could see it was a bullet hole from the front. But , I know , she was mistaken, crazy , had an alterior motive, and was not an expert.
But how about the glass expert at Ford Motor Company who replaced the windshield and was ordered to scrap the damaged one? In his expert opinion , it was a bullet hole from the front.
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Your proven bullet hole, blown up
Wow you could fit JFK's dick through that.
Oh and Ford don't agree so I guess they are also keeping quiet about the conspiracy they were in on.
a Ford memorandum
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| Examination of the windshield disclosed no perforation, but substantial cracks radiating a couple of inches from the center of the windshield at a point directly beneath the mirror. |
It's a crack, FACT. Is F. Vaughn Furgusson less of an expert? There is no hole there.
Also, if it came from the grassy knoll it was not a direct shot at the president.
Yes, the intern was an unreliable witness, did she inspect the wind shield or just give it a glance since there were more pressing matters at the time?
Edit: Page 10, 'knock knock' 'who's there?' 'Life' 'Where *beep* you been?' |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone with reasonable access to the evidence in the JFK case who does not conclude that the president was assassinated by conspirators is cognitively impared and/or complicit in the crime.
If all you look at is the government's spin on what private researchers have uncovered in this case, you will always come up with something to counter that research. I hope it makes you happy.
The only effective -- let alone sane -- way to understand what happened to JFK is to conduct what I've termed a three-phase investigation and to zealously segregate those phases.
PHASE ONE -- HOW was Kennedy killed?
PHASE TWO -- WHO could have done it the way it was done?
PHASE THREE -- WHY did they do it?
The first question has been answered beyond all doubt: The evidence -- medical, eyewitness, earwitness, photographic, and forensic -- in its totality supports no conclusion other than conspiracy.
This is not theory. This is not opinion. This is not belief. This is fact.
And once again, likely to the dismay of some, I must reiterate the mantra:
Anyone with reasonable access to the evidence in the JFK case who does not conclude that the president was assassinated by conspirators is cognitively impared and/or complicit in the crime.
Answering the second question requires what might best be termed the reverse-engineerings of the hit itself and the cover-up, and the manners in which circumstances were manipulated to make them possible as they went down.
And the third question is put to rest when the motives of those identified in the previous phase are delineated.
Back to Phase One: There is not a scintilla of untainted evidence to support a Lone Nut argument. Those of us who enjoy "reasonable access" to the evidence and who are neither "cognitively impared" nor "complicit in the crime" are honor-bound to countenance no debate whatsoever on this question if in fact the would-be proponent of the LN argument is in a position to know better.
Further, we are obliged to inform well-intentioned newcomers to the assassination investigation that conspiracy in the death of John Fitzgerald Kennedy is established fact. The HOW question has been answered.
ET: You are not seriously looking at the evidence in this case. I have asked you take the test regarding that bullet that is in new condition and could have not harmed a fly and still be in the condition it is in much less the massive damage it suppposedly caused to the Connely. Do you really expect anyone to believe that that bullet which is at the very least 98% still intact cause at least FOUR wounds on a human, including their bones.
Don't refer to a expert witness who will support your case , although I could too.
THINK FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF
"Well that's scientific. " Well do then and be honest about this thing. You are just jerking me around and at first, it was a way for me to examine the governments case for free. ( thanks) But now it is getting sickening. For example , you provide a memo that we can not read from Ford Motor Company denying involvement. Woa! What a surprise! They deny it! WTF would you expect them to do. Admit it? The glass expert gave oral and video testimony when he was dying stating the windshield had a bullet hole that came from the front. Period. That is the fact. Your spin and Fords denial dont mean shit.
Take the test. Look at the evidence and witness testimony in the case or take a hike.
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
Location: Nearly in NK
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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regicide; Get another hobby.
Who killed JFK. Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK from the school book depository. Did he have hekp? he may have but probabky not. Just another loner, whacko
How did he do it? With the rifle in the picture. It is a high velocity fairly small bore weapon. The rounds travel fast. The shots were "downhill, going away shorts, which are quite easy shouts, It was bolt action but a trained Marine such as he would have no trouble getting the three shots off.
Why did HE (perhaps they) do it. Because he wanted to.
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You cited "metaphysical proof". I don't thenk you wanted to say that as metaphysical realtes to spirts etc. Did God tell you? |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| I have never understood why if there were 2 shooters that makes it a conspiracy. Maybe 2 different people who knew nothing about each other both decided to shoot him and it happened almost at the same moment. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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How did he do it? With the rifle in the picture. |
Folks. He is refering to the "backyard pictures" used to frame Oswald.
"Just another loner, whacko" = believing the lie, hook line and sinker.
The pictures are bogus. A lot of work has gone into proving so. If you look at his head it doesnt even match his body. Like so many things in this case, it only takes a little common sense to understand what has been done.
My hobby notwithstanding, these pictures were made in an obvious attempt to make the man look guilty. If you can't see this as part of the framing process , I do not know what to say.
What a joke. " I saw that backyard picture and that convinces me he did it"
The truth in this matter is self-evident. Any fool can see he was framed and the government, with it's unlimited resources is covering it up.
Metaphysical certitude is that with which self-evidently necessary truth is known, or necessary truth demonstrated from self-evident truth. The demonstrative sciences, such as geometry, possess metaphysical certitude.
There is not a scintilla of untainted evidence to support a Lone Nut argument. Those of us who enjoy "reasonable access" to the evidence and who are neither "cognitively impared" nor "complicit in the crime" are honor-bound to countenance no debate whatsoever on this question if in fact the would-be proponent of the LN argument is in a position to know better.
The Secret Service Stand Down Video:
See for yourself what went down that day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8 |
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itaewonguy
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| JFK is not dead he is playing golf with Elvis... |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| I have never understood why if there were 2 shooters that makes it a conspiracy. Maybe 2 different people who knew nothing about each other both decided to shoot him and it happened almost at the same moment. |
Yes in the nutjob world this is known as the coincidental conspiracy in that
the conspiracy itself is the consequence of those within the metaphysical
evidence when disposed to being complicate because they refuse to
believe in coincidence or conspiracies.
In other words you need more questions to infuse the purity of Ezekialism.
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what this means:
"Metaphysical certitude is that with which self-evidently necessary truth is known, or necessary truth demonstrated from self-evident truth. The demonstrative sciences, such as geometry, possess metaphysical certitude."
I think regicide's rinfoil helemut needs replacing. |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what this means:
"Metaphysical certitude is that with which self-evidently necessary truth is known, or necessary truth demonstrated from self-evident truth. The demonstrative sciences, such as geometry, possess metaphysical certitude."
I think regicide's rinfoil helemut needs replacing. |
Yes I can explain. It comes from the Ezekialist extremists.
...and you misspelled tinfoil. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Mi an hamnida for mispelling tinfoil.
Who in heck are the Ezekialist extremists? |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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Mi an hamnida for mispelling tinfoil.
Who in heck are the Ezekialist extremists? |
The ones with the tinfoil hats.
They are sure that there are questions in every question.
Edit to make sense 
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Does anyone know what this means:
"Metaphysical certitude is that with which self-evidently necessary truth is known, or necessary truth demonstrated from self-evident truth. The demonstrative sciences, such as geometry, possess metaphysical certitude."
I think regicide's rinfoil helemut needs replacing. |
The difference between those that have uncovered the truth in this matter and the Lone Nutters who arrogantly write books such as "Case Closed" , is that we know that nothing in this world is ever absolutely 100% certain.
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regicide
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| Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I assumed the phrase "metaphysical certitude" would set off some BS detectors. That's what McLaughlin used to say on McLaughlin Group when asking a 1-10 rating one being complete falsehood and ten metaphysical certitude.
The difference between those that have uncovered the truth in this matter and the Lone Nutters who arrogantly write books such as "Case Closed�, is that we know that nothing in this world is ever absolutely 100% certain.
The United States Secret Service's sole purpose for being in existence is to protect the POTUS. (President of the United States) On November 22, 1963, in Dallas Texas, they did not.
You can spin all the minutia of the day, including the framing of Lee Oswald , all day long. But you will not be able to explain away the Stand Down of protection in Dallas that day. Even the government's most able spin doctors can not.
You have seen the Secret Service Stand Down video. This further documents the Secret Service behavior. And although the producer of this video thinks JFK was killed over Vietnam, I do not. The basic premise that only parties within Kennedy's government could have ordered something like this, remains. We can never really be sure why Kennedy was killed , but we sure in the hell can see how and by whom.
See for yourself:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=V1Wmj9GPsQo |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
ET Said: "What now? Where's this picture? "
and " Yes, that claim is very problematic since no-one's proved it happened. "
1) In your link , that says "link"
The picture of the limousine at Parkland Hospital.
2) It was proven by a glass experts' statement.
Do some research please. You will find out that an intern working there could see it was a bullet hole from the front. But , I know , she was mistaken, crazy , had an alterior motive, and was not an expert.
But how about the glass expert at Ford Motor Company who replaced the windshield and was ordered to scrap the damaged one? In his expert opinion , it was a bullet hole from the front.
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Your proven bullet hole, blown up
Wow you could fit JFK's *beep* through that.
Oh and Ford don't agree so I guess they are also keeping quiet about the conspiracy they were in on.
a Ford memorandum
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| Examination of the windshield disclosed no perforation, but substantial cracks radiating a couple of inches from the center of the windshield at a point directly beneath the mirror. |
It's a crack, FACT. Is F. Vaughn Furgusson less of an expert? There is no hole there.
Also, if it came from the grassy knoll it was not a direct shot at the president.
Yes, the intern was an unreliable witness, did she inspect the wind shield or just give it a glance since there were more pressing matters at the time?
Edit: Page 10, 'knock knock' 'who's there?' 'Life' 'Where *beep* you been?' |
It is always like this: Researchers dig up evidence from citizen witnesses and experts like the one at Ford. The other witness was a physician, but no matter.
At the very least, they raise serious doubts about the original version of the events.
Then the spin doctors go to work. All citizen witnesses are unreliable and mistaken.
But those representing the government, the perpetrator of this crime, are always right.
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