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transcript/verification NIGHTMARE.

 
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Skodaboy



Joined: 07 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: transcript/verification NIGHTMARE. Reply with quote

Hello all,

I hope you can help me out ...

I'm currently in the process of trying to get a new job. I have something lined up and it's got to the point where I need to give them my documents.

I have my original diploma BUT I only have opened transcripts. The problem is that my university's database has crashed all the records from a certain period of time (ie, my time) and cannot issue any transcripts for the foreseeable future.

In lieu of transcripts they have sent me verification certificates, which are currently en route. As well as this, I also have a verification certificate from the British Counsel IN Korea from last December which worked last time I got a job.

Will this work again? If they insist on transcripts (which my recruiter is, not believing me about this wild story) I am screwed.

Oh yes, there's also a postal strike in my home country (the UK) so there's no telling when these verification certificates will arrive.

Any advice or kind words appreciated.

cheers,

Skodaboy
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: Original sealed transcripts Reply with quote

How about certified copies of transcripts by a JP? With a stat dec by a senior University official (in a sealed /stamped Uni envelope)?

Additionally, you'll need:

Medical certificate (negative Aids, TB, Hepatitis, & normal blood pressure)
Police Check
old & new ARC card
E2 Visa (& a flight ticket to Japan?)
old Letter of Release?
2 original signed references (they don't accept electronic signatures)
proof of prior teaching from your old school


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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to je skoda.

fakt.

well, my friend's uni is run by utter fucktards and his transcript was delayed (because of final exams), sent in an unofficial envelope (retarded office worker), and sent regular mail on the day of a postal strike (retarded office worker). it got to Korea, but of course it didn't suffice. he had to have it sent a second time in a uni envelope.

how long will the database be out? can't hurt to try with the certificates...
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Skodaboy



Joined: 07 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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well, my friend's uni is run by utter fucktards and his transcript was delayed (because of final exams), sent in an unofficial envelope (retarded office worker), and sent regular mail on the day of a postal strike (retarded office worker). it got to Korea, but of course it didn't suffice. he had to have it sent a second time in a uni envelope.

how long will the database be out? can't hurt to try with the certificates...


I just spoke to them again and it's more than crashed - the records are gone. I've sent an email to the relevant channels reiterating how important this is.

You're right, can't hurt to try.

Frustrated thanks,
Skoda
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Skodaboy



Joined: 07 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bump
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what uni is it?
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive my skepticism but what kind of a rinky-dink little crap-ass university would have all the records from the registrar�s office stored on a computer without having a backup?

Obviously it must be one without an IT department or an IT program.

Is there such a university in the western world?

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Skodaboy



Joined: 07 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a rinky dink ex-metropolitan university that doesn't know its arse from its elbow.

Liverpool John Moore's University.

Cherie Blair's the chancellor. Or was, maybe that's why it's gone downhill. Anyway, I might drop her an email.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang, wouldn't they back up all this data? You would think they have this in several geographic locations on different servers.

Guess, it is smart to keep a copy to help them regenerate your file in the event they fail.

Why don't you ask them to generate a generic transcript with the most likely classes you took in your degree program and assign random grades based on your GPA? just an idea.

If they can't produce a transcript, make one based off of your degree program, and ask them to stamp it and put it in an envelope that has an official stamp.

South Korea only requires sealed transcripts as an outdated way of verifying that you actually went to school to obtain the degree you are presenting. It's not important if the grades are not accurate, just that it's verified you attended the school to graduate.


Probably, there is a change coming about where they will be able to just electronically verify your credentials rather than putting applicants through and unstandardized inconvenient test of proving credentials.

What if country government departments of educations recorded earned degrees and could be contacted by any employer or immigration department to verify credentials? This would be smart and downright practical...

Of course country department of educations record degrees, especially if you have student loans, but there simply is no standardized system or reciprocal agreements between countries on verifying professional credentials. They just have to trust what are considered reliable professional sources such as the U.S. Dept. of Education and individuals.




Why you, yea you reading this, can you verify that expensive degree you studied many years for, once again? Just joking.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In college I had an instructor who graduated in the mid 80's from
a German university. She said she did not have a transcript. She
just had a book with stamps in it that showed what she had done.
She said if she loses the book there are no records.

Was she kidding?
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ulmaeri



Joined: 26 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, only a book? Wonder why she can't get the college to issue her something more formal now.
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Scouse Mouse



Joined: 07 Jan 2007
Location: Cloud #9

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in my day (10 years or so ago) JMU had the best computer network of all the UK Unis. They had 2 backup locations each on a different power grid to each other, and the servers were all located underground and covered quite a lot of space...

I can't believe they have allowed it to slip so far to the point where they can lose such valuable information...
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ulmaeri



Joined: 26 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IT was prolly playing too much Angband.....
hehe Twisted Evil

Remembering the number of hours of wasted playing the old text based adventure games......
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sue the crap out of your school because the missing records prevent you from getting employed.

You top that off with emotional damages suffered from the ordeal. Bam! Early Retirement.
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
You sue the crap out of your school because the missing records prevent you from getting employed.

You top that off with emotional damages suffered from the ordeal. Bam! Early Retirement.


You are completely right. For the OP's uni to fail at keeping appropriate backups both electronically and hard copies is going to cost them severely. The OP needs to join the bandwagon (which should be forming already) and go the route of suing. This is not acceptable of ANY university.
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