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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:48 am Post subject: The unbearable lightness of impermenancy |
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This topic is generated by the fact that it took me a full hour to log on to my e-mail in what is supposed to be 'the most wired country on earth'. Frankly, I'm getting a tad burned out on that tiresome litany, simply because the facts don't support the premise. This KT modem blinking before me has apparently used up its shelf-life already, though its only eight months old. Nothing here seems to be built to last; everything seems to have a built-in-obsolesence, much like the Detroit cars of the fifties, designed to fall apart in order to generate more buying of the same, albeit flashier, crap. The chaebol, the manufacturers, are sending their best products overseas, to compete with the major players, while selling inferior products at home, where competition is virtually 'ruled' out. So those of us living here, Korean or waygook, are almost guaranteed an inferior product, whether it be electronics or cars or almost any household appliance, or for that matter, the best that Korea has to offer in IT. So while SK Telecom is wiring up Brunei, the followup here is shoddy, to say the least. I suppose the good news is that Koreans have not yet learned to make wine , or they'd be shipping the best stuff out as well, keeping only the plonk for themselves... . [/quote] |
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posco's trumpet
Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: Beneath the Underdog
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: The unbearable lightness of impermenancy |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have wondered about that. I am on my second toaster here. Back home I can buy the cool retro toasters at a garage sales and they still work. Have a couple made in 1950's and some rad lamps from 1960's that work just fine. I had a touch lamp here die after 8 months.....hmm?
I had a refrigerator die...albeit used. But Mom has had the same frig for about 20 years and finally retired it to basement to house overflow and got a new one.
I don't understand why nothing lasts...clothes.....shoes...appliances...I don't worry much about it.....I just buy what I need and hope for the best.
One thing however I have noticed is Koreans tend to buy new stuff when they move....get married or whatever. Even if the man or woman already has an apartment. They buy all new things. Also, when my neighbors move I am amazed at how much the dispose of and when people move in often 75% of everything is new. (Lotte, CJ, and Hyundai trucks furiously arriving laden with new stuff).
There is no such thing as kitsch...I mean I was over the moon at home when I found a red formica breakfast table! I think I got it at the auction for $30. Just not done here.....not that I am complaining......got a couple of nice items via "dumpster" diving.....
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lush72
Joined: 18 Aug 2003 Location: I am Penalty Kick!
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:37 pm Post subject: Re: The unbearable lightness of impermenancy |
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coolsage wrote: |
This topic is generated by the fact that it took me a full hour to log on to my e-mail in what is supposed to be 'the most wired country on earth'. Frankly, I'm getting a tad burned out on that tiresome litany, simply because the facts don't support the premise. This KT modem blinking before me has apparently used up its shelf-life already, though its only eight months old. |
I agree COMPLETELY- KT internet service absolutely SUCKS. I am on my 3rd modem now. The first time there was a lightning strike locally that fried the modem- hey that could happen anywhere right? The second modem, KT somehow changed the service without informing most people (if your modem is blinking - even with the computer OFF this is a warning) making log ons take more and more time. This third modem is shot- I am going to get it replaced this weekend but to tell you the truth, I've had it with this crap. I am seriously thinking of not calling KT and just getting hanoffice or some other service. It's really annoying to have to find new proxies every few days just to get my yahoo email & some other accounts. I can give you this advice for e-mail, try using https://proxify.com/
I can ALWAYS log in from there.
Hey ESL Cafe people! Do any of you have this problem with KT? What did you do about it? |
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Joe Thanks

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Dudleyville
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Pens and lighters were utter sh@t when I last lived in SK. Students would literally go through a single pen in a week. For me it was a coule of days. Lighters - I'd see countless companeros buy a lighter and by the end of the night it NEVER worked.
I started importing Pilot pens from the US (one Pilot pen lasts me at least a year, with 5 years being the longest) and handed them out as gifts.
It could be an example of why Korean electronics distributed within the country, as well as trivial items like pens and lighters - NEVER last compared to similar products abroad. I rarely "Buy Korea" in Korea. Outside of it, only LG/Goldstar stuffs.
Cheers,
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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The answer to your KT woes!
I've been using their service for 3 years with minimal trouble. I generally leave it on 24/7 & I also experience the slowdowns you speak of every 3 or 4 days. But I've figured out an easy tweak.
First, a technical explanation. You see, theres all these tiny pacmans running up & down the cord between your modem & your computer. Theyre cute & friendly but theyre dirty critters, which in time clogs up that skinny tunnel. The solution is simple. Disconnect from Enternet, switch off the modem, wait one second & switch it on again. Voila! the pipes are flushed. Reconnect & Bob's your uncle, usually.
But occasionally the first try at reconnecting doesnt improve things. That little score tally box just sits there at 14 & 14 & will not go up. Not to worry! Just disconnect & connect again. Those parameter numbers arent meaningless -- some are lucky, some not so. 2 or 3 tries & you should hit your lucky combo. Praying or cursing are optional, but probably cant hurt.
Sorry for all the technical jargon. Hope this helps! |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Remember the solar flares! We may be having connection difficulties due to the solar flares.... I had problems calling the USA today. |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Reconnect & Bob's your uncle |
WTF...WHO the heck is bob anyway.....is this some strange alien code????
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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I've been on HanaFOS for about six months now, and no problems so far (knock, knock, knock).
As for lighters, who BUYS them anyway? Sure they're terrible quality, but every bar in Korea is handing them out for free.
I do have one serious quality complaint in the pen department, though, and that's the Mon Ami Plus Pen 3000. They're really cheap fine point flair pens, they explode regularly, the tips last less than a week, and my middle school students have discovered that if they flick them just right ink sprays everywhere. They especially like to do this with the red ones.  |
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matthewwoodford

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Location: Location, location, location.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 11:46 am Post subject: Re: The unbearable lightness of impermenancy |
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coolsage wrote: |
This KT modem blinking before me has apparently used up its shelf-life already, though its only eight months old. Nothing here seems to be built to last; everything seems to have a built-in-obsolesence |
Er...modems all suck everywhere anyway. Broadband is the only way. Why would anyone anyway actually go to the trouble of having a computer at home and signing up to an ISP when it's so easy to find a nice fast PC bang? Are you nuts?!
Matt |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Er...modems all suck everywhere anyway. Broadband is the only way. Why would anyone anyway actually go to the trouble of having a computer at home and signing up to an ISP when it's so easy to find a nice fast PC bang? Are you nuts?! |
1. PC bang frowns on me coming in my "jammies" and bunny slippers
2. I don't smoke.
3. I am not subjected to K-pop at earthquake decibles.
4. No screaming kids, girls or middle school students.
5. Powerpoint, word, excel and printing without paying someone a few hundred won.
6. My house smells better.
Thank you for your kind attention.
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 2:36 pm Post subject: Re: The unbearable lightness of impermenancy |
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matthewwoodford wrote: |
Er...modems all suck everywhere anyway. Broadband is the only way. Why would anyone anyway actually go to the trouble of having a computer at home and signing up to an ISP when it's so easy to find a nice fast PC bang? Are you nuts?!
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You're the one who comes home smelling like a cigarette every night. If you're a smoker, fight the power, but not everybody is. |
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