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Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
I can't help but admire David Lange in spite of myself. Personally, if I were leader of NZ, I would do the same thing. NZ is small enough and isolated enough from threats that it can pull such stunts, and since NZ has done nothing wrong, the US and Australia would still come to its aid in the unlikely scenario that another country would attack it.

It would be interesting to see the provisions of the ANZUS treaty, and to read an analysis of an international attorney's opinion from each side on the issue. As it stands, its hard for me to be sure that the US is violating ANZUS provisions by its actions, although I would not doubt evidence showing that it is. After all, wasn't NZ supposed to accomodate those nuclear submarines by treaty?


According to the text of the treaty, signed on the 1st of September 1951 but coming into force on the 29th of April 1952, there is no mention of nuclear weapons nor of submarines. No mention of any weapons actually. As the NZ government has repeatedly assured both Australia and the U.S. that it will uphold its end of the ANZUS alliance in every respect but have nothing to do with nuclear energy nor power, then the U.S. would appear to be breaching Article II
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Article II

In order more effectively to achieve the objective of this Treaty the Parties separately and jointly by means of continuous and effective self-help and mutual aid will maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack.
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/other/dfat/treaties/1952/2.html

The U.S.'s reaction to NZ's sovereign decision to not allow nuclear weapons nor nuclear powered ships into NZ was to suspend their ANZUS obligations to NZ. I respect Lange too, and am very sad that he died as young as he did. He was a very clever and funny man.
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