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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: was only suggesting my opinion |
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| Bramble wrote: |
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| mikeybhoy wrote: |
Sorry to have struck some concerns over my piece on pedophiles and rehabilitation. Naturally i was not suggesting that rehabilitation cannot work in these cases i was suggesting that it is very slim to work. Otherwise, if this person is found to be guilty(why is he running) i feel he deserves the fullest extent of the law, and should never be allowed anywhere near children again. Also, i was not suggesting that my credentials warrant me factual information i was giving personal insight, sorry to have offended anyone. Regardless, i have no sympathy for pedophiles, such things in my opinion as rehabilitation and reintegration should be left to those we can trust back into our society. Also, im quite mad that a stigma is being raised now for those who generally want to have a experience and gain experience teaching.
Further, the media is a valuable asset in these situations and so cannot be attacked, they will be the ones that aid in catching this guy. |
You're very polite and everything, but you're not very bright, are you? |
I haven't followed this entire mess of pedophilia-related threads, so I'm sure I've missed something along the way. But why on Earth are you attacking "mikeybhoy"? What's your point? |
I'm not attacking him, I think he's nice. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| just read the thread. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: was only suggesting my opinion |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Bramble wrote: |
| The_Eyeball_Kid wrote: |
| mikeybhoy wrote: |
Sorry to have struck some concerns over my piece on pedophiles and rehabilitation. Naturally i was not suggesting that rehabilitation cannot work in these cases i was suggesting that it is very slim to work. Otherwise, if this person is found to be guilty(why is he running) i feel he deserves the fullest extent of the law, and should never be allowed anywhere near children again. Also, i was not suggesting that my credentials warrant me factual information i was giving personal insight, sorry to have offended anyone. Regardless, i have no sympathy for pedophiles, such things in my opinion as rehabilitation and reintegration should be left to those we can trust back into our society. Also, im quite mad that a stigma is being raised now for those who generally want to have a experience and gain experience teaching.
Further, the media is a valuable asset in these situations and so cannot be attacked, they will be the ones that aid in catching this guy. |
You're very polite and everything, but you're not very bright, are you? |
I haven't followed this entire mess of pedophilia-related threads, so I'm sure I've missed something along the way. But why on Earth are you attacking "mikeybhoy"? What's your point? |
Not only is he attacking mikeyboy, he is defending pedophiles. |
Defending paedophiles 
Why does it come down to somebody being an apologist or defending actions of another person.
What are you lot "a mob". Let's dispense with the "mob" mentality of not thinking about the issue at hand and go and light a torch and burn everyone who doesn't think the same as you. Assuming that somebody who doesn't agree with you is 'defending paedophiles' is no brainer thinking. Pop down to current events if you want that! |
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jaganath69
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Jinju's only capable of two types of thought, black and white. Didn't you know? |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Jinju's only capable of two types of thought, black and white. Didn't you know? |
I thought it was "Me vs You"? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| For me this is black and white. he is a pedophile - stick a rusty knife in him. he RAPED 6 year olds. Call me what you want, my time here should tell you that I dont give a crap what you think. |
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mikeybhoy
Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Thanks eyeball |
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| Yes i do agree with avoiding the mob mentality, my emphasis is directed more towards the aid of such victims. I do find it admirable that you raise discussion towards correcting these deviant behaviours. But lastly, my opinion is being directed towards canadian law and if he were to be tried here. The laws and sentencing here do not do enough for the rights of victims and i just feel that more emphasis is needed towards helping victims of these crimes rather than having the focus on correcting a pedophiles behaviour. It is though a fact that such deviants are the hardest to correct with rehabilitation. I am not in prelaw, i have taken law and am now a criminologists. However, with the studies done it is apparent that the results remain incunclusive on rehabilitation. Therefore, eyeball is 100% correct in raising issues of society and such. |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: was only suggesting my opinion |
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| The_Eyeball_Kid wrote: |
| Bramble wrote: |
| The_Eyeball_Kid wrote: |
| mikeybhoy wrote: |
Sorry to have struck some concerns over my piece on pedophiles and rehabilitation. Naturally i was not suggesting that rehabilitation cannot work in these cases i was suggesting that it is very slim to work. Otherwise, if this person is found to be guilty(why is he running) i feel he deserves the fullest extent of the law, and should never be allowed anywhere near children again. Also, i was not suggesting that my credentials warrant me factual information i was giving personal insight, sorry to have offended anyone. Regardless, i have no sympathy for pedophiles, such things in my opinion as rehabilitation and reintegration should be left to those we can trust back into our society. Also, im quite mad that a stigma is being raised now for those who generally want to have a experience and gain experience teaching.
Further, the media is a valuable asset in these situations and so cannot be attacked, they will be the ones that aid in catching this guy. |
You're very polite and everything, but you're not very bright, are you? |
I haven't followed this entire mess of pedophilia-related threads, so I'm sure I've missed something along the way. But why on Earth are you attacking "mikeybhoy"? What's your point? |
I'm not attacking him, I think he's nice. |
Whether he's nice or not (and whether or not he's made his best effort to type out a well-written and well-thought-out post) is beside the point here, isn't it? I saw your post to Jinju, and I'm still having a hard time understanding where you're coming from. What's your problem with this newcomer who doesn't seem to like capitals and punctuation very much? |
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Hollywoodaction
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It's nice to see that things are getting back to normal.  |
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arjuna
Joined: 31 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| I find the whole attitude that people have to sex offenders [...] is largely the product of fear, misunderstanding and a desire to distance oneself from that which we find reprehensible, and in the final analysis adds nothing to our understaning, and adds nothing to eradicating the problem. I believe such crimes occur through a lack of civilisation, and we can evolve beyond them. THey are not inherently human. But we cannot move beyond them whilst the perpetrators are portrayed as 'inhuman monsters' who deserve punishments that were once freely handed down for heresy, sedition, rebellion, theft, blasphemy, and other medieval crimes no longer thus punished. Reading about such degradation and criminality as the crimes currently under discussion tantalises us in the most abject way, hence it continues to be fodder for the press, and we love to discuss and compete on our disgust and abjection whilst poring over the stories for further lurid details, feeding the fire more. Not until we give up the self-indulgent pleasure of our histrionic outrage and disgust will our understanding of the motivations and causes of such miserable criminality be furthered. |
I haven't read the entire thread, but I get your drift. You make a very good point.
About this Neil guy. There is certainly something wrong with him. Judging by the several pictures I've seen of him, I know I would be uncomfortable in his physical presence even if I didn't know anything about him. There are many others of his type (energetically) everyehere in the world. He is not even the most depraved. Because of his incoherent mental make-up, he is not able to conceal his illness as well as many others can. It is true--he is only one among many in our midst, and he is far less harmful than others of his and similar types who are able to commit crimes against humanity with impunity. |
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Lonewolf
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All I can say is I'm glad this garbage is gone.
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Girl, 14, held in motel as sex slave
June 06, 2007
JEONJU ― A middle school student barely into her teens was held prisoner for six months in a motel and forced to serve hundreds of men as a prostitute. The 14-year-old girl was enslaved by an acquaintance and two accomplices, according to North Jeolla police.
The three suspects were detained yesterday and the police are expanding the investigation to include the 800 men believed to have had sex with the victim.
The second-year middle school student ran away from her home in Mokpo at the end of October and quit her studies, police said. After leaving home, she encountered a 20-year-old woman, identified only by the last name Jin, who lured her to a motel in Gwangju and kept her there against her will. The victim and the suspect were friendly because Jin�s mother owns a restaurant where the victim�s mother works.
Jin and two of her friends used the girl as the center of a prostitution scheme. From November 2006 until her escape on May 22, the victim serviced clients found through Internet sites and was forced to engage in sex up to five times a night. She was required to earn at least 600,000 won ($647) a day from prostitution, police said, and she was often beaten by her captors with iron pipes and fists. The trio earned about 120 million won from the girl, police said.
The suspects stayed in an adjacent room at the motel to keep an eye on the victim during the ordeal, police said, but she escaped on May 22. She contacted an uncle in Jeonju, and the police were finally notified. The three suspects went to the home of the uncle, apparently intent on recapturing their victim. Police were waiting and the three were arrested.
�There was a customer who was a doctor and he saw the bruises on my body, but he still returned 10 times,� the victim was quoted as saying by the police. �Men saw my bruises and wounds, but they did not care. I told them that I was a prisoner, but they just turned away. They were afraid because they were engaged in the sex trade.�
The police said they have obtained 800 phone numbers of men suspected of having sex with the girl. About 40 of them have already been questioned and face charges for having sex with a minor. The police said they will expand the investigation to include all suspected customers.
The police said the victim�s customers ranged from doctors and teachers to students and soldiers.
One of the men questioned is a university professor.
�I did not know she was a minor. Please do not let my university know about this,� the professor was quoted as saying.
By Jang Dae-suk JoongAng Ilbo/ Ser Myo-ja Staff Writer [[email protected]]
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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: was only suggesting my opinion |
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| Bramble wrote: |
| The_Eyeball_Kid wrote: |
| Bramble wrote: |
| The_Eyeball_Kid wrote: |
| mikeybhoy wrote: |
Sorry to have struck some concerns over my piece on pedophiles and rehabilitation. Naturally i was not suggesting that rehabilitation cannot work in these cases i was suggesting that it is very slim to work. Otherwise, if this person is found to be guilty(why is he running) i feel he deserves the fullest extent of the law, and should never be allowed anywhere near children again. Also, i was not suggesting that my credentials warrant me factual information i was giving personal insight, sorry to have offended anyone. Regardless, i have no sympathy for pedophiles, such things in my opinion as rehabilitation and reintegration should be left to those we can trust back into our society. Also, im quite mad that a stigma is being raised now for those who generally want to have a experience and gain experience teaching.
Further, the media is a valuable asset in these situations and so cannot be attacked, they will be the ones that aid in catching this guy. |
You're very polite and everything, but you're not very bright, are you? |
I haven't followed this entire mess of pedophilia-related threads, so I'm sure I've missed something along the way. But why on Earth are you attacking "mikeybhoy"? What's your point? |
I'm not attacking him, I think he's nice. |
Whether he's nice or not (and whether or not he's made his best effort to type out a well-written and well-thought-out post) is beside the point here, isn't it? I saw your post to Jinju, and I'm still having a hard time understanding where you're coming from. What's your problem with this newcomer who doesn't seem to like capitals and punctuation very much? |
My 'not very bright' comment, now rescinded, was directed at the final comment on the role of the media. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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| he should be beaten into a coma. No sympathy. I dont give a crap if you tell me he is "sick". Pedophiles know they are hurting kids. If he cant control himself. tough *beep*. I hope he gets raped in general population in a prison. Hopefully not in PC hell called Canada, just look at Karla Homolka, who is now FREE after having done the same to girls, including her own sister. Atleast this freak didnt kill his victims. In canada he will spend a few years living it up like karla and he will be released. I say throw him into prison in Cambodia or Vietnam and let the natives *beep* him up. |
YAWN. |
You seem to be defending pedophiles quite a lot..... Why? |
I'm guessing he doesn't have children. |
Does having children cause you to want all nonce suspects to be raped to death? |
No.
But it might explain the passion that many people have against child molestation.
To someone without children, it is a concept.
To someone with children, it is a possibility and a fear.
If people lash out against pedophilia and its ilk, I would hazard to guess that it is because they find it repulsive and scary to imagine their loved ones in a similar situation of victimization.
I have a daughter, and I do not want to imagine anything like this happening to her. I have no need to go on a rant about what would happen if it did, but I can understand those that do.
So again, I'll say - I suspect you do not have children. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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CC is spot on. Ive got a son. Id shiv anyone who even attempted to hurt him the way this guy has.
I would like it if all the pedo defenders who dont have kids, leave this thread. Its not a place for you as your opinion is worthless. |
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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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CC is spot on. Ive got a son. Id shiv anyone who even attempted to hurt him the way this guy has.
I would like it if all the pedo defenders who dont have kids, leave this thread. Its not a place for you as your opinion is worthless. |
Should we leave the indulgent righteousness to just those who've managed to spawn then? Empathy be damned!
I can appreciate that we maybe have a difference in values. Personally, I'd shiv anyone who doesn't know how to use apostrophes.
By way of an aside and in no way an inference, most sexual abuse and rape of children occurs within the family.
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