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PBEnglish



Joined: 24 Nov 2006
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Any fallout yet? Reply with quote

Has anyone heard of any fallout yet over the Neil case? Obviously, I'm not talking about a large group of ESL teachers being summoned down to the police station for "background" checks, but more along the lines of K teachers talking and whispering about it?
I've been surprised. At my hagwan, there hasn't been a damned thing mentioned by any of the Korean teachers and this is the same school that when the pot/fake degree thing went down, I couldn't turn around without a Korean teacher talking about how we're all "addicts".
I'm really surprised that two days after this exploded (and a day after it hit the Korean media), I haven't heard anything about it mentioned in my school.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally think this will all be forgotten about in a few weeks. He is not the first pedophile to be found here.
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Gwangjuboy



Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as I can tell Koreans don't seem to care. It's a big news week in Korea too because Jeong Dong Yeong was chosen as presidential candidate so this story has probably been relegated to the middle pages. Not one Korean amoungst my friends or colleagues has even mentioned it. The Korean police are still trying to ascertain whether he abused any of his students while he was teaching here but it appears that he didn't. If he did the story would be much bigger. I think it will fade away. I don't think the E-2 visa requirements will get any more stringent either; the authorities have already conceded in the media that it is impossible to impliment such a system considering privacy laws in the west. (with the exception of the US) Interest in this case is going to be limited to a small number of wingnut netizens who relish stories like this.

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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard from a co-worker that today it finally made it onto the TV news. But he said the news report said Neil had been working here 7 years, so obviously they're off to a typically erroneous start.

I suspect that, like normal, the K-press is very afraid of harming the reputations of the institutions at which he worked, though parents and teachers from Gwangju Foreign School have already been interviewed by the western press.

You'd think that since a serial child rapist was teaching hundreds of Korean kids there'd be more concern.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of Fallout, you know what's gonna be sweet? Fallout 3. Bethesda seems really dedicated to sticking with the feel the first two Fallouts had.
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Zolt



Joined: 18 May 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, the thread got me daydreaming about that particular fallout too.
Less sweet is the $$$ I'll have to save for a new PC. Well, still plenty of time left
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zolt wrote:
Lol, the thread got me daydreaming about that particular fallout too.
Less sweet is the $$$ I'll have to save for a new PC. Well, still plenty of time left


No worries for me, I already tricked mine out for Oblivion and Bioshock. Once NVIDIA puts out a decent/afforable DX10 card, well... I'll be in heaven.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It always takes a few extra days for the rage to build. I doubt we'll ever see anything offline though.

I lived through a big media circus like this a couple years ago with the Music Camp incident. My Korean friends had to deactivate their websites but the online lynch mob didn't bother trolling any related English pages.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently, he taught in a Korean public school last year.

I'm sure the current administration has sent out some sort of "hush hush" to the fellow left-leaning (left means Northward leaning in Korea) media groups. We don't want to shed any more negative light on the Korean educational system. For those of you who don't know -- the Korean media is somewhat controlled by the government here.

People trying to be the next president of Korea will likely work hard to create a stink in the next few days, however, it will be entirely the fault of foreigners. No Korean school or individual will be lambasted in any way.
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Zolt



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scotticus wrote:
Zolt wrote:
Lol, the thread got me daydreaming about that particular fallout too.
Less sweet is the $$$ I'll have to save for a new PC. Well, still plenty of time left


No worries for me, I already tricked mine out for Oblivion and Bioshock. Once NVIDIA puts out a decent/afforable DX10 card, well... I'll be in heaven.


From what I hear, ATI 2900 pro is the DX10 card to go with at the moment. With the latest drivers it kicks the crap out of anything but the top of the range nvidia cards, and at a much more affordable price.
Personally I'm more thinking about going SLI with some mid-range nividia cards
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zolt wrote:

From what I hear, ATI 2900 pro is the DX10 card to go with at the moment. With the latest drivers it kicks the crap out of anything but the top of the range nvidia cards, and at a much more affordable price.
Personally I'm more thinking about going SLI with some mid-range nividia cards


Sadly, I've recently invested in a new mobo, so I'm stuck with NVIDIA and SLI for awhile. At this point, I feel like it's more prudent (and cost effective) to just wait for NVIDIA to get their shit together and put out a good DX10 card that won't cost more than the rest of the computer. I've got a 7800GTX from last year, so it's capable of handling most games quite well. Of course, that is also contingent on Microsoft getting its shit together with Vista and making it worth the upgrade from XP. I want to punch those bastards in the face for making DX10 Vista-only.
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4 months left



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think unless it comes out that he abused Korean children, their reaction will be muted.
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Korea at large cares much either. Actually even western co-teachers of mine who AREN'T posting on Daves, don't seem to care so much.

I think you would have had to have been in on the Daves frenzy to find it interesting. If I didn't post here, it wouldn't be a story that would interest me much.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you would have had to have been in on the Daves frenzy to find it interesting.


Yeah, me too. My non-teacher friend (s) don't give a flying fig. There are creeps in all societies and even if Koreans tried to weed them out (which they don't but that's another story) rational people understand that you can't catch them all.
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Paji eh Wong



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's too early to tell what the Korean response is going to be.

At any rate, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Its nothing to do with me.
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