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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: Tell me tell me song |
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Hi,
So this past week in class I've been asking students to "tell me" a verb, or "tell me" an adjective, or whatever, and the students find it very amusing. It's sort of annoying, so I find myself saying "say" instead. Today I learned its from a recent song by Wonder Girls. If your students find it very hilarious when you say "tell me," that's why.
I was going to print out lyrics and talk about them in class, since apparently there are some English lyrics, but it looks like they just sing in Korean and say tell me tell me tell me tellmetellmetellmetellme over and over again (just like middle schoolers). If you're interested: http://cafe.naver.com/elwpdlqlxmqkrtm.cafe?iframe_url=/ArticleRead.nhn%3Farticleid=14 |
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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Ha, ha! That just happened to me the other day. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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really? I always say "tell me" or "give me an example, give me an adjective" My kids dont laugh when I say tell me. They did laugh when I said "true" I asked "is this true" and they went crazy. I figured it must have meant something dirty/funny in Korean. I didnt really care and continued using it  If they can use konglish in my classroom then i'm free to continue saying it I never even bothered asking the korean teacher what it meant. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Currently the most-viewed story on Chosun Ilbo's website: http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710190019.html
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| The Wonder Girls say they were stunned by the outfits and choreography for "Tell Me" when they first saw them. "We didn't like wearing the outfits. But once we shot the music video in them, it was fun," says So-hee, 15. The music at the time was still new to them and it wasn't easy to get the choreography right. "The choreography looks simple but it's actually quite complex. Small repetitive motions with the hips, chin and shoulders -- it makes a strong image," said the Wonder Girls. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I can thank the Wonder Girls for getting classes to giggle at the word "Ironing." You know... cause it sounds like "Irony." I also couldn't figure out why a lot of them said, "I need you" and "I want you." One of the K-Teachers informed me that those are from a song as well. Ugh... don't even get me started on "I'm so sorry, but I love you."
Thank you, Korean media, for sowing the seeds of countless awkward situations when these kids go to a real English speaking country. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
Currently the most-viewed story on Chosun Ilbo's website: http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710190019.html
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| The Wonder Girls say they were stunned by the outfits and choreography for "Tell Me" when they first saw them. "We didn't like wearing the outfits. But once we shot the music video in them, it was fun," says So-hee, 15. The music at the time was still new to them and it wasn't easy to get the choreography right. "The choreography looks simple but it's actually quite complex. Small repetitive motions with the hips, chin and shoulders -- it makes a strong image," said the Wonder Girls. |
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Catchy song, I love it and hate it at the same time (but that's Korea in a nutshell for me). It's recycled American synth pop from the '80's (Sheila E's "Two of Hearts"). They stole the melody, sampling cuts, and song structure.
The music was "new" to them because it's from the 1980's before they were born, but the sound is not new. It's known as electro, basically an ultra funky sped-up hip hop beat with lots of synthetic drum sounds. It's one of the only genres Korean producers haven't stolen from, but looks like thats about to change.
Does this blatant stealing and re-hashing of old American and British songs rub anyone else the wrong way? They seem quite content to steal old songs and sing in Korean over them and pretend it's "new". |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:35 am Post subject: |
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I thought the Dynamic Duo cover of "Ring My Bell" was catchy (but I'm probably the only non-Korean to think so). People were very surprised to learn that "Maria"---that hit song from last year---was a Blondie cover. I wonder if they even realize how much stealing is going on. (What ever happened to that suit against Lee Hyori for stealing Britney Spears' song?) I don't follow pop music of any country enough to comment, but I think if there's a case of blatant stealing, alert the artist or record label somehow. I doubt that some no-name Korean record company secured the rights of an American hit song, and in 2007 it's not really acceptable to say "I didn't know."
Anyway, the English does bother me. I guess I'll just have to step up and prove myself more influential than pop culture. *sigh* "Happy ending tonight" is not something they ought to be learning. |
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KYC
Joined: 11 May 2006
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 4:45 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
I thought the Dynamic Duo cover of "Ring My Bell" was catchy (but I'm probably the only non-Korean to think so). People were very surprised to learn that "Maria"---that hit song from last year---was a Blondie cover. I wonder if they even realize how much stealing is going on. (What ever happened to that suit against Lee Hyori for stealing Britney Spears' song?) I don't follow pop music of any country enough to comment, but I think if there's a case of blatant stealing, alert the artist or record label somehow. I doubt that some no-name Korean record company secured the rights of an American hit song, and in 2007 it's not really acceptable to say "I didn't know."
Anyway, the English does bother me. I guess I'll just have to step up and prove myself more influential than pop culture. *sigh* "Happy ending tonight" is not something they ought to be learning. |
It was settled & Hyori's management had to pay X amount. Hyori then later went on many tv shows and shed a few crocodile tears and gave several bs reasons for it. It's all very fake to me. SOOOOO much of Korean music is "borrowed" from other musicians..and when I point it out they all deny it. It's never going to stop. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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oops, I meant Stacy Q, not Sheila E. for the "Two of Hearts" song.
Anyway, I know "borrowing" styles and sounds are common in music (as well as sampling), but the blatant rip offs are a different matter.
It's even worse when Koreans deny it's straight up stolen or maintain that K-pop, K-hip hop, etc. is brilliant and original...far from it.
I wonder if the average Korean even knows that most of their music is re-hashed sounds from the West dating 20+ years ago. Oh well, better late than never right? um, no, stop copying everything we do and pretending it's yours.
And then, with the average Korean xenophobic, racist, nationalist mentality , it's like rubbing salt in the wound as well. And they don't just do it with music, they do it with fashion, art, design, and technology as well. C'mon, Korea...you can do better than that...or maybe not?
But to be fair, the beat from "Tell Me" rocks! And of course the Wonder Girls are cute as well (albeit in an annoying, superficial kind of way).
ok, rant over.  |
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