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[mack4289]

If this guy's numbers are right, the JA Daily (and the rest of the media) deserves a lot of flack for not giving more context about foreigner crime.

http://rokdrop.com/2007/09/24/exposing-the-myth-of-foreigner-crime-in-korea/

"For every 100 Koreans walking around in Korea there is at least one serious criminal while for every 270 foreigners walking around there is one serious criminal. The average person walking down the street in Korea is nearly three times more likely to have a serious crime committed against them by a fellow Korean than a foreigner.

.... The ratio for murders for Koreans is one murder for every 45,623 Koreans. The same murder ratio for foreigners comes out to one murder for every 13,892 foreigners. This murder ratio is much higher than the Korean murder ratio. Before any Korean citizens reading this begins to fear their kid�s hagwon teacher or the next GI they see walking down the street is going to murder them, keep in mind that in 2006 no Koreans were murdered by either a US soldier or a foreign English teacher. None. In fact a Korean has more recently murdered a GI than the other way around when Major David Berry was murdered in Itaewon by a crazed Korean man. I can�t even recall the last time a foreign English teacher murdered anyone. The murders that I have seen in the Korean news by foreigners against Koreans are coming from Chinese and third country national workers. Just for clarity once again I repeat that in 2006 not one English teacher or GI murdered a Korean. The kids can stay in the hagwon and the next GI you see walking down the street will not murder you.

... The ratio for robberies is one robber for every 10,140 Koreans. For foreigners the ratio comes out to 9,348. So you are slightly more likely to be robbed by a foreigner in Korea than by a Korean though once again this number is probably inflated by the 3D workers.

Here are the ratios for rape. There is one rapist for every 5,594 Koreans while there one rapist for every 14,709 foreigners. So the possibility of being raped by a Korean man is nearly three times greater than being raped by a foreigner.

Here are the ratios for larceny. Larceny is one person out of every 254 Koreans while for foreigners it is one person out of every 1,030 foreigners. So basically you are four times more likely to be ripped off by a Korean than by a foreigner.

.... There is one person committing an act of violence for every 173 Koreans. For foreigners it is one person committing an act of violence for every 402 foreigners. Koreans are about two and half times more likely to commit an act of violence than a foreigner.

So to summarize the average person walking down the street in Korea is per capita three times more likely to have a crime committed against them by a Korean, more likely to be murdered by a foreigner even though as I pointed out it wouldn�t be by a English teacher or a GI, slightly more likely to be robbed by a foreigner than a Korean, three times more likely to be raped by a Korean, four times more likely to be frauded by a Korean, and two and half times more likely to be assaulted by a Korean."

[Scotticus]

Gorgeous. Not like this'll change anyone's mind, but it's interesting to see stats like this when you pull away all the bullshit scare-mongering.

[BRawk]

[oldfatfarang]

I had an interesting discussion with a Korean detective 'trainer' a couple months back. He said that 'foreigner crime' in K was largely confined to non-Westerner (other Asian communities). He said that most Western crime was just young guys getting drunk (GI's).

Interestingly, he said that the big 'foreigner crime' was brides running away from K husbands. He said that Korean men used to marry Chinese, then Thai brides - but, get this, they kept running away (after the dowry was paid). He said that now most 'foreign' brides are Vietnamese ("because they used to be communist and they don't expect as much").

[mack4289]

[mack4289]

Thinking about this more, the flaw in his analysis is that he assumes that each crime is committed by a different person, which certainly wouldn't be the case for Koreans. Isn't there a generally accepted 80/20 rule, meaning 80% of the crime is committed by 20% of the criminals?

But with foreigners, it really could be that each crime is committed by a different foreigner, since foreigners convicted of serious crimes are deported (?).

That doesn't change the likelihood of the crimes (so you're still 3x more likely to get murdered by a foreigner, or 3x more likely to be raped by a Korean). But it does change the percentage of criminals in Korea by nationality. The 1 in 270 number for foreigners is probably much more accurate than the 1 in 100 number for Koreans.