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Tony_Balony
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 Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: How to Deny The Holocaust And Get Away With It |
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Armenian Issue Presents a Dilemma for U.S. Jews
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By NEELA BANERJEE
Published: October 19, 2007
LEXINGTON, Mass., Oct. 17 � On the docket for the weekly selectmen�s meeting here on Monday were the location of park benches, a liquor license for Vinny T�s restaurant and, not for the first time, the killing of 1.5 million Armenians in Turkey 90 years ago.
The debate in this affluent Boston suburb, home to many Jews and Armenians, centered on a local program to increase awareness of bias. The issue was not the program itself, but its sponsor, the Anti-Defamation League, the Jewish advocacy group, which has taken a stand against a proposed Congressional resolution condemning the Armenians� deaths as genocide.
�If you deny one genocide,� said Dr. Jack Nusan Porter, a child of Holocaust survivors and a genocide studies scholar who attended the meeting, �you deny all genocides.�
The Congressional resolution has created an international furor and deeply offended the Turkish government, both a key ally of Israel�s and a crucial logistics player for the American presence in Iraq. But as events in Boston suburbs in recent months have shown, it has also put American Jews in an anguished dilemma as they try to reconcile their support of Israel with their commitment to fighting genocide. In the end, the Board of Selectmen here voted unanimously to cut ties with the Anti-Defamation League, as did three other Boston suburbs this week. Three other towns had already done so, with more considering the option.
For many Jews, the issue has involved much soul-searching.
�It�s hard to talk about it because there are two things or more in conflict here,� said Rabbi David Lerner of Temple Emunah in Lexington. �Israel is in a very vulnerable position in the world, and Turkey is its only friend in the Middle East. Genocide is a burning issue for us, now and in the past. It�s something of who we are.�
The House resolution condemning the killings of Armenians as genocide is nonbinding and largely symbolic, but Turkey�s reaction has been swift and furious. It has recalled its ambassador from Washington and threatened to withdraw critical logistical support for the Iraq war.
For Patrick Mehr, a Lexington resident who spoke at the meeting Monday, the overriding priority is condemning the killings, regardless of Turkey�s response.
The next day at his home, Mr. Mehr, the son of a Holocaust survivor, voiced the anger many Jews and Armenians feel toward Abraham H. Foxman, the Anti-Defamation League�s national director. �Abe Foxman, like George W. Bush, is mumbling that it may not have been genocide,� Mr. Mehr said. �Foxman talks about commissions of scholars who should study this. That, to me, rang exactly like Ahmadinejad saying, �Let�s have a committee to study the Holocaust.� Give me a break.�
Jewish leaders have long sought to focus attention on the killings of Armenians, starting with the American ambassador to Turkey in 1915, Henry Morgenthau Sr., who wrote in a cable that the Turkish violence against Armenians was �an effort to exterminate the race.� Several members of the House Foreign Affairs Committee who voted for the resolution, including a key sponsor, Representative Adam B. Schiff, Democrat of California, are Jewish.
Several major Jewish groups, like the American Jewish Committee, oppose the resolution, arguing that it is not the best way to persuade the Turks to examine their past.
Mr. Foxman argues that Turkey is the only friend Israel has in the Muslim world, and it has been hospitable to Jews since giving them refuge after they were driven from Europe during the Inquisition.
�Israel�s relationship with Turkey is the second most important, after its relationship with the United States,� Mr. Foxman said. �All this in a world that isolates Israel, and all this can�t simply be waved away.�
Widespread attention to the Anti-Defamation League�s opposition to the resolution came in July, when David Boyajian, an Armenian-American resident of Newton, Mass., wrote to a local newspaper saying that the town�s anti-bigotry program, known as No Place for Hate, was tarnished because of its sponsorship by the Anti-Defamation League.
He wrote that the A.D.L. �has made the Holocaust and its denial key pieces� of the program, �while at the same time hypocritically working with Turkey to oppose recognition of the Armenian genocide of 1915-23.�
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ADL had recognized the genocide but is opposed to congress passing the resolution because it will strain relations with Turkey, an ally of Israel and the US. Geopolitics really shouldn't play a part in this decision. Sad. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hypocrites & unscrupulous political swine.
What of the WAR itself? How many lives were ritually sacrificed in WW1?
How many in WW2?
How many now in Iraq? Apparently over 1 MILLION IRAQIS have now been murdered.
Not good enough for crimes against humanity?
MOLOCH !!!
Oh yes, if anyone bothers to scratch beneath the surface, they'll discover the wonderful ROTHSCHILDS have played a major role in orchestrating this genocide / holocaust, just as they've had a hand in countless other unspeakable crimes 
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rothschilds+armenian+genocide+holocaust |
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catman
Joined: 18 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Those are white nationalist sites. I prefer actual Armenian testimony. And it says nothing about the JEWWWWWSSSSSS. It talks about the Muslim Turks though. |
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Location: Top secret.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: |
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| I read "Anti-Defamation League" I stop reading seriously. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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The US is being sanctimonious? Hardly news.
The Anti-defamation League, despite their apparent motives, is right. The resolution is ridiculous. I'm not disputing that genocide has occurred in Turkey, but just imagine for a moment that South Korea passed a similar resolution accusing the US of genocide or war crimes during the Korean War. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Anti-De-famation-League (classic double-think).
So who are they in LEAGUE with? 
Kinda like another nonsense term: anti-semit-ism. Why all the antis & isms?
Misplaced (FALSE) cognates?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_cognate
QUESTION: Doesn't an ANTI plus a DE = a double negative?
Why not just say it like it is? Why hide behind ANTIS?
Serves for effective propaganda & double-think catch-phrase programming.
Who exactly's doing the defaming?
PROS ???
CONS - Zionist criminal thugs.
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| And it says nothing about the JEWWWWWSSSSSS. It talks about the Muslim Turks though. |
jeeeeeeeeeeewwwssssssssss ??? huh?
You mean the so-called ATENISTS? LUCIFERIANS?
PHARISEE descendants of Israelite Pharoahs? (real or imagined)
Proud theocratic disciples of Ahkenaten / MOSES?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahkenaten |
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twg
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Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar
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