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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Immi is about. Reply with quote

Go to Ansan today if you are illegal. My wife (who is legal) just got interrogated by the immi guys there when she got off the bus. Laughing
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, Kyeonggi Do immigration... A fine example of "nothing better to do"
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JongnoGuru



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet they learnt that from 3 Alley Pub.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Ah, Kyeonggi Do immigration... A fine example of "nothing better to do"


She said they'd nabbed a couple of Indonesians, no doubt 3D workers who opted out of the horror that is the industrial trainee scheme.
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
twg wrote:
Ah, Kyeonggi Do immigration... A fine example of "nothing better to do"


She said they'd nabbed a couple of Indonesians, no doubt 3D workers who opted out of the horror that is the industrial trainee scheme.


What's the industrial trainee scheme, please?
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huffdaddy



Joined: 25 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Go to Ansan today if you are illegal. My wife (who is legal) just got interrogated by the immi guys there when she got off the bus. Laughing


Just in time for the Unity Fest. I wonder if they're going to have an immigration check-in at the front gates. Should I take my diploma and transcripts with me?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
My wife (who is legal) just got interrogated by the immi guys there when she got off the bus. Laughing


"Excuse me, what crime do you suspect me of committing?" should be the first words out of your mouth when someone comes up to you and demands to see your ARC while you're out and about. The second thing you say should be, "May I see your identification proving you are a law enforcement officer?" Police and other law enforcement officers may only ask you to present your ARC only in the course of their lawful investigation of an offense. Merely looking foreign is not an offense, according to the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.

I'm hoping Immigration ends up one time checking only tourists legitmately here on their first day and the tourists get peeved enough to protest to their governments, to the Korean government, and to the press both in their home countries and in Korea.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the perfect opportunity for a sting operation to me.

Korea sparkling!
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
jaganath69 wrote:
My wife (who is legal) just got interrogated by the immi guys there when she got off the bus. Laughing


"Excuse me, what crime do you suspect me of committing?" should be the first words out of your mouth when someone comes up to you and demands to see your ARC while you're out and about. The second thing you say should be, "May I see your identification proving you are a law enforcement officer?" Police and other law enforcement officers may only ask you to present your ARC only in the course of their lawful investigation of an offense. Merely looking foreign is not an offense, according to the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.

I'm hoping Immigration ends up one time checking only tourists legitmately here on their first day and the tourists get peeved enough to protest to their governments, to the Korean government, and to the press both in their home countries and in Korea.


First thing I would ask for is
-ID
-If they were charging me and for what
-For my lawyer

Beyond that, they would get next to nothing out of me.
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shaunew



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Calgary

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say can't understand you very well, what do you want. I'm sorry your English is to terrible to understand. But thank you have a nice day and walk away. Or just show them my f-2-1 and tell them off.
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on_me_head_son



Joined: 26 May 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Police and other law enforcement officers may only ask you to present your ARC only in the course of their lawful investigation of an offense. Merely looking foreign is not an offense, according to the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.



Immigration officials have more powers than the average cop.

Anyway, whats the big deal? Show your ARC and away on your merry way.
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they wer checking to see if anyone had their 'I'm a pedo' ID and decoder ring.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whilst looking foreign is not an offence, not carrying your ARC is.

As you are required by law to carry your ARC around, they (both police and immi, I guess) can stop you on the spot at any time to see that you have your ID on you, whether you have done anything wrong or not.

This is exactly the same in HK - police stops anyone that looks vaguely sheepish to look at their ID and get a background check on the spot.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

on_me_head_son wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
Police and other law enforcement officers may only ask you to present your ARC only in the course of their lawful investigation of an offense. Merely looking foreign is not an offense, according to the Constitution of the Republic of Korea.



Immigration officials have more powers than the average cop.


Wrong. They are law enforcement officials, just like "regular cops" in this country.

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Anyway, whats the big deal? Show your ARC and away on your merry way.


It's called unlawful and unconstitutional discrimination. That's the big deal.

The police may request I show my ARC to them if they are investigating me for another offense. They cannot decide to stop me--or anyone else in the country--merely because they think I'm a foreigner. Well, they can't legally do it.

The way it is in Hong Kong or anywwhere else for that matter is irrelevant. The governing law here is the Constitution of the Republic of Korea. The government, and even society, in Korea are starting to understand that, but it's a slow slog.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:31 am    Post subject: Re: Immi is about. Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:

It's called unlawful and unconstitutional discrimination. That's the big deal.

The police may request I show my ARC to them if they are investigating me for another offense. They cannot decide to stop me--or anyone else in the country--merely because they think I'm a foreigner. Well, they can't legally do it.

The way it is in Hong Kong or anywwhere else for that matter is irrelevant. The governing law here is the Constitution of the Republic of Korea. The government, and even society, in Korea are starting to understand that, but it's a slow slog.


Have you read what I wrote?

You are REQUIRED by law to carry your ID around - they can stop you just to see that you ARE carrying your ID around.. foreign or not.
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