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Freakstar
Joined: 29 Jun 2007
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:03 am Post subject: Re: ha ha |
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| nateium wrote: |
| koreandefence wrote: |
...we have great work ethic, respect, none of us have ever had fake credentials, we all support and help each other, we are polite and friendly and have made Itawon a great safe place, we don't break the rules of our visas, in short, we are awesome.
Do not get me wrong, as a westerner here I do see some problems with the system however if we don't stand up and stop giving people the excuses to treat us this way, then we will have more crediility in our quest for fair play. ( |
There is no WE. This is a Korean imposed idea.
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| Your still reading and replying, so must of hit a nerve or it must be interesting |
Your (you are)? There is also no YOU! The YOU that you are referring to is the imaginary WE I just mentioned. WE are a random bunch of individuals with only one single thing in common; WE post on this board.
Unfortunately, there is no brain sharing collective that you can debate with.
When you can grasp the concepts of free speech, individual thinking, and internet post boards...let US know.
until then....STFU |
NO DUDE, YOU STFU.
In another thread, you go off on how I could dare call Koreans racist when I tell you that most Koreans would not want you to date their daughters, cousins and sisters...and then in this thread, you're ranting about how racist Koreans are!
How convenient for you to use one argument v. another when it suits you! You are one CONFUSED *beep*.  |
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LUCRETIA
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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I always thought a pretty good argument for how f-ed up both sides of this squabble are is how badly people need to flame one another, and how quickly the whole thing winds up a hate-spewing, nonsensical mess where almost everyone ends up feeling morally superior to almost everyone else.
It's boredom I swear.
I want to stop posting here, and I want to stop reading this *beep*, but I can't  |
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Rae
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:13 am Post subject: |
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I didn't know my Mother was monitoring this forum.
But seriously, most forums are the same. No matter if it's a stock forum, gaming forum, heck stamp collecting forum - they are all the same. You will likely run into some bigots, assholes, and even people that deem themselves all important and become the one-person counsel of ethics and judgment.
My advice: take a chill pill. It's the friggen internet. LOL! |
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This is me
Joined: 29 Sep 2007
Location: kwangju
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe I'm old, but what's STFU stand for? |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Koreandefense = troll. That's it.
Respond if you like egging on a troll. Don't if you don't. |
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Rae
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| This is me wrote: |
| Maybe I'm old, but what's STFU stand for? |
shut the f*** up |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: ha ha |
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| Freakstar wrote: |
Iin this thread, you're ranting about how racist Koreans are!
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No. That's not what I was doing. You can't read. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: Ignorance |
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| koreandefence wrote: |
Hi fellow caf� citizens,
I would just like to say I am very disappointed with the high levels of ignorance a few people on this board display. I can only say I am very happy that many Koreans, who can read English, do not read these posts and see how racist/xenophobic and judgemental some of you are. Thankfully, these clowns only account for about 1% of the people on here, but it are these sorts of people that bring the expatriate community down. So read these examples and remember that you are a guest in Korea, try and show some respect. What would you think if a Korean person went to your country and complained about everything? Hmm
I have read posts asking �Why don�t Korean parents tell their kids not to be rude?� Hmm, are we asking this because we all know that children in English speaking countries are so well behaved? Or are we asking because we all know that the best parents come from the English speaking community?
I have seen posts claiming �It�s not my job to make materials for my classes�. Well let me explain something to you, if you are asked to do a job, and your on company time, and it is not a danger or degradation to yourself or others, then I�m sorry, it is your job to do it. Or again, is it you don�t want to do it because in English speaking countries teachers don�t have to prepare for lessons? Or because in English speaking countries it is ok to tell your boss that you�re not going to do as asked?
Just read the post claiming that there are racist words in the Korean/English dictionary. Oh my, strange that no one pointed out that these were translations of ENGLISH phrases into Korean (although some did note that we used these phrases in English). Wouldn�t that mean the racist and hurtful phrases originated from the English speaking population? Oh the ignorance of a handful of the �EDUCATED� people on this forum amuses me.
Then there are those who rant because some Korean guy/girl �calls out in English� as they approach. Now it may be a little off putting to you and even a little rude on the behalf of the Koreans to do this, but to say that the Korean was speaking �Englisheee� is, now what do they call it? RACIST. (Yes, making a joke or fun of another person based on a cultural difference, such as the way that person speaks, is racist) These guys spoke in English and you were offended, so you showed your true colours and reverted to being the racist you are.
But the ignorance does not stop there ladies and gentleman. No, these knob heads think that every time a Korean is nice or friendly they just want free English lessons. Well to be honest, if you think this, then it is you who has the problem and not them. You seem to lack self esteem and have ill informed ideas of your own self importance. (They only want to be my friend because I can help them with English, well at least speaking English is something you have to offer, pity you lack anything else)
Or how about this genius. Responding to the post about guessing which face (picture) belonged to which ethnic group. I quote, �It's not like the test matters because unlike Koreans, I ASK where people are from. I don't assume...which is what the test asks you to do...� Hmm, didn�t you just assume that all Koreans don�t ask? Is it really so hard not to put down Korea and Koreans at every opportunity. Or can I ASSUME that you are going to remain a clown?
But my favourite has to be the post asking �If Japan offers a better cultural experience than Korea�. Nice question. Now we are rating cultures are we? Let me ask you this, does America offer a better cultural experience than England? Or are these two very distinct and very different cultures to be enjoyed in there own way? Oh the ignorance. What�s better an apple or an orange?
Or the fool who was wondering about the phrasing on the application form when their friend was applying to do an MBA at a Korean University, then stating that because of a few typos Korean Universities could not crack the top 50 U�s in the world. Well, your friend must be very intelligent for applying for such poor institutions. Can you not see that you just offended your friend as well as many people in Korea. Just another case of ignorant people belittling others to make themselves feel better. But hey, you probably went to a top 50 University. Good for you! How did you get into teaching with your superior intellect? Oh, and your ability to think laterally is quite astounding, if you could not interpret the questions and had to resort to asking maybe an MBA is beyond you or your friends abilities.
However, on a good note, I have seen many of the more level headed people on this board start to fight back and tell these bigots that they are a minority. Like the multiple posts against the teacher who thinks Korea is no good because he can�t save money. Poor you buddy, go see a financial advisor, don�t slate a whole country.
And again when some guy called Korean teachers �retards� (great word you use my friend, not demeaning to anyone) and people had to point out to this clown that it was a fault with the system not the teacher. But hey, just no beating ignorance.
So I eagerly await your replies. Lets see how many people will actually take this on board and better themselves and lets see how many remain a blemish on the face of the expatriate community in Korea. Oh, I have made a few syntax and grammar mistakes for those who enjoy finding the faults with other peoples posts. Everyone has a hobby I guess. |
Ha ha. Bloke's been here a month, two max.
Give it time pal, give it time. The rosey tint wears off for all of us after around 6 months plus... it takes around that amount of time for the cummulative effects of things that are annoying about being a foriegner here to break through the skin...
Funny thing is I'm responsible for some of the posts you quote in your OP, yet when I'd been here about six months, I used to sound just like you..... |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Ignorance |
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| koreandefence wrote: |
Hi fellow caf� citizens,
I would just like to say I am very disappointed with the high levels of ignorance a few people on this board display. I can only say I am very happy that many Koreans, who can read English, do not read these posts and see how racist/xenophobic and judgemental some of you are. Thankfully, these clowns only account for about 1% of the people on here, but it are these sorts of people that bring the expatriate community down. So read these examples and remember that you are a guest in Korea, try and show some respect. What would you think if a Korean person went to your country and complained about everything? Hmm
I have read posts asking �Why don�t Korean parents tell their kids not to be rude?� Hmm, are we asking this because we all know that children in English speaking countries are so well behaved? Or are we asking because we all know that the best parents come from the English speaking community?
I have seen posts claiming �It�s not my job to make materials for my classes�. Well let me explain something to you, if you are asked to do a job, and your on company time, and it is not a danger or degradation to yourself or others, then I�m sorry, it is your job to do it. Or again, is it you don�t want to do it because in English speaking countries teachers don�t have to prepare for lessons? Or because in English speaking countries it is ok to tell your boss that you�re not going to do as asked?
Just read the post claiming that there are racist words in the Korean/English dictionary. Oh my, strange that no one pointed out that these were translations of ENGLISH phrases into Korean (although some did note that we used these phrases in English). Wouldn�t that mean the racist and hurtful phrases originated from the English speaking population? Oh the ignorance of a handful of the �EDUCATED� people on this forum amuses me.
Then there are those who rant because some Korean guy/girl �calls out in English� as they approach. Now it may be a little off putting to you and even a little rude on the behalf of the Koreans to do this, but to say that the Korean was speaking �Englisheee� is, now what do they call it? RACIST. (Yes, making a joke or fun of another person based on a cultural difference, such as the way that person speaks, is racist) These guys spoke in English and you were offended, so you showed your true colours and reverted to being the racist you are.
But the ignorance does not stop there ladies and gentleman. No, these knob heads think that every time a Korean is nice or friendly they just want free English lessons. Well to be honest, if you think this, then it is you who has the problem and not them. You seem to lack self esteem and have ill informed ideas of your own self importance. (They only want to be my friend because I can help them with English, well at least speaking English is something you have to offer, pity you lack anything else)
Or how about this genius. Responding to the post about guessing which face (picture) belonged to which ethnic group. I quote, �It's not like the test matters because unlike Koreans, I ASK where people are from. I don't assume...which is what the test asks you to do...� Hmm, didn�t you just assume that all Koreans don�t ask? Is it really so hard not to put down Korea and Koreans at every opportunity. Or can I ASSUME that you are going to remain a clown?
But my favourite has to be the post asking �If Japan offers a better cultural experience than Korea�. Nice question. Now we are rating cultures are we? Let me ask you this, does America offer a better cultural experience than England? Or are these two very distinct and very different cultures to be enjoyed in there own way? Oh the ignorance. What�s better an apple or an orange?
Or the fool who was wondering about the phrasing on the application form when their friend was applying to do an MBA at a Korean University, then stating that because of a few typos Korean Universities could not crack the top 50 U�s in the world. Well, your friend must be very intelligent for applying for such poor institutions. Can you not see that you just offended your friend as well as many people in Korea. Just another case of ignorant people belittling others to make themselves feel better. But hey, you probably went to a top 50 University. Good for you! How did you get into teaching with your superior intellect? Oh, and your ability to think laterally is quite astounding, if you could not interpret the questions and had to resort to asking maybe an MBA is beyond you or your friends abilities.
However, on a good note, I have seen many of the more level headed people on this board start to fight back and tell these bigots that they are a minority. Like the multiple posts against the teacher who thinks Korea is no good because he can�t save money. Poor you buddy, go see a financial advisor, don�t slate a whole country.
And again when some guy called Korean teachers �retards� (great word you use my friend, not demeaning to anyone) and people had to point out to this clown that it was a fault with the system not the teacher. But hey, just no beating ignorance.
So I eagerly await your replies. Lets see how many people will actually take this on board and better themselves and lets see how many remain a blemish on the face of the expatriate community in Korea. Oh, I have made a few syntax and grammar mistakes for those who enjoy finding the faults with other peoples posts. Everyone has a hobby I guess. |
Ha ha. Bloke's been here a month, two max.
Give it time pal, give it time. The rosey tint wears off for all of us after around 6 months plus... it takes around that amount of time for the cummulative effects of things that are annoying about being a foriegner here to break through the skin... afer six months or so of being treated (not to mention 3 or 4 years) like it's your first day off the plane still, it starts to all become clear...
Funny thing is I'm responsible for some of the posts you quote in your OP, yet when I'd been here about six months, I used to sound just like you.....
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: ha ha |
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| nateium wrote: |
| koreandefence wrote: |
...we have great work ethic, respect, none of us have ever had fake credentials, we all support and help each other, we are polite and friendly and have made Itawon a great safe place, we don't break the rules of our visas, in short, we are awesome.
Do not get me wrong, as a westerner here I do see some problems with the system however if we don't stand up and stop giving people the excuses to treat us this way, then we will have more crediility in our quest for fair play. ( |
There is no WE. This is a Korean imposed idea.
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| Your still reading and replying, so must of hit a nerve or it must be interesting |
Your (you are)? There is also no YOU! The YOU that you are referring to is the imaginary WE I just mentioned. WE are a random bunch of individuals with only one single thing in common; WE post on this board.
Unfortunately, there is no brain sharing collective that you can debate with.
When you can grasp the concepts of free speech, individual thinking, and internet post boards...let US know.
until then....STFU |
Yeah, I agree with this post. There is no "We", "Them" etc ..., those words are often used for generalizations that shouldn't happen. |
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Bernard_Carleton
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Location: Out in the open, but you can't see me.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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You guys fell for an obvious troll. From australia? yeah right.
Nothing that goes on here is any worse than what goes on on Naver, full of psychotic nazizens, or what goes on on TV where a racist show full of generalizations and lies about evil foreigners is aired every second month.
And Im not a guest. Im a permanent resident with a visa to prove it. So op, *beep* off. |
Does anyone else get really scared when they read a post from Jinju and think, "He made a good point" |
Nice one... and I find myself agreeing with Jinju more and more, both as Bernard_Carleton (my sock) and my previous ID (no longer used). |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: Re: Ignorance |
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| But my favourite has to be the post asking �If Japan offers a better cultural experience than Korea�. Nice question. Now we are rating cultures are we? Let me ask you this, does America offer a better cultural experience than England? Or are these two very distinct and very different cultures to be enjoyed in there own way? Oh the ignorance. What�s better an apple or an orange? |
This is by far the most telling part of your post, especially considering that you regard this particular issue as your "favourite".
Do you honestly feel uncomfortable when expats in Korea talk about Japan in a positive light? Is this the hallmark of a rude "guest"?
Normally, it would be easy to live down such an outburst. However, I suspect that your lumping of cultural comparisons with genuine whining, coupled with your claim that this particular issue is your "favourite", could remain a thorn in your side whenever you partake in related debates in the future.
Are you willing to explain your opinion? |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| The only one who seems to be ignorant here is the OP and obviously a troll. |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
| The only one who seems to be ignorant here is the OP and obviously a troll. |
Trolls? Is that what the flame thrower is for? |
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Hank the Iconoclast
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:01 am Post subject: |
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| nateium wrote: |
| Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
| The only one who seems to be ignorant here is the OP and obviously a troll. |
Trolls? Is that what the flame thrower is for? |
Indeed. |
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