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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

LMAO!

Go Korean government!!!!!!!!!!

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710250003.html

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Korean lawmakers are set to come up with a new regulation forbidding the issuance of work visas for unqualified English instructors.

The move comes just days after the arrest of 32-year-old Canadian Christopher Paul Neil, a suspected pedophile who taught at a school in Korea for three months before fleeing to Thailand this month.

There are currently 16,000 foreigners working in Korea as English teachers.

Over the past five years, over 800 foreign English instructors have been caught with forged degrees or having worked in Korea without proper visas. Some have even been found to have taught under the influence of drugs.

Lawmakers said Wednesday that the new law will scrutinize the criminal and medical histories of all education work visa applicants before a visa is granted
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marlow



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
LMAO!

Go Korean government!!!!!!!!!!

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710250003.html

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Korean lawmakers are set to come up with a new regulation forbidding the issuance of work visas for unqualified English instructors.

The move comes just days after the arrest of 32-year-old Canadian Christopher Paul Neil, a suspected pedophile who taught at a school in Korea for three months before fleeing to Thailand this month.

There are currently 16,000 foreigners working in Korea as English teachers.

Over the past five years, over 800 foreign English instructors have been caught with forged degrees or having worked in Korea without proper visas. Some have even been found to have taught under the influence of drugs.

Lawmakers said Wednesday that the new law will scrutinize the criminal and medical histories of all education work visa applicants before a visa is granted


Good. I hope it keeps teachers away in droves, then salaries will go up.


Anyone thinking about coming to Korea--DON'T. Go to China instead. There are more jobs, and the pay is better--TRUST ME.
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Octavius Hite



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I second that. It's time to leave the "Hub of Northeast Asia". Greener pastures are to be found elsewhere.

They are driving the talented teachers away (me and 3 "lifers" are leaving at the ends of our contracts) and with this new push they wont be able to fill our positions with fresh fish from uni.

LMAO.
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Jarome_Turner



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

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Some have even been found to have taught under the influence of drugs.


Rolling Eyes
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jinju



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im on an F5. Nothing worries me.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, back to the anal rape prison for me.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The article is just pointing out the obvious visa restrictions. No degree equals no visa!!!

Rolling Eyes

I was having a chat with a Korean friend yesterday and he agreed that many teachers in Korea have limited experience and/or little qualifications. We started talking about visa restrictions for teachers etc and I came up with a pretty good idea really.

Imagine that the more qualified teachers have a chance to get a better visa (like indefinite leave to remain in Korea - F5) and the less qualified teachers have visa restrictions (like on the current E2). This would have the positive effect of getting qualified or non-qualified teachers interested in professional development and Korea gains more qualified teachers. It is common sense really but I don't think Korea would consider it. It is too easy.

Thus, the quality of teachers in Korea rises and everyone is a winner. Korea becomes more open and there is a better sense of multi-culturalism.

What do you think?
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jessie-b



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

marlow wrote:



Anyone thinking about coming to Korea--DON'T. Go to China instead. There are more jobs, and the pay is better--TRUST ME.


You really think so? The pay seems to be less.
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GoldMember



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If only the 'Unqualified' Students could also be deported.
Woops there goes 80% of my class.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
The article is just pointing out the obvious visa restrictions. No degree equals no visa!!!

Rolling Eyes

I was having a chat with a Korean friend yesterday and he agreed that many teachers in Korea have limited experience and/or little qualifications. We started talking about visa restrictions for teachers etc and I came up with a pretty good idea really.

Imagine that the more qualified teachers have a chance to get a better visa (like indefinite leave to remain in Korea - F5) and the less qualified teachers have visa restrictions (like on the current E2). This would have the positive effect of getting qualified or non-qualified teachers interested in professional development and Korea gains more qualified teachers. It is common sense really but I don't think Korea would consider it. It is too easy.

Thus, the quality of teachers in Korea rises and everyone is a winner. Korea becomes more open and there is a better sense of multi-culturalism.

What do you think?


If pay went up significantly with experience I'd think there would be no problem. If teachers who are shitty got fired more often, there would also be no problem.
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Re: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

jessie-b wrote:
marlow wrote:



Anyone thinking about coming to Korea--DON'T. Go to China instead. There are more jobs, and the pay is better--TRUST ME.


You really think so? The pay seems to be less.


I was being arrogantly sarcastic. I should use the Wink, I guess.
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jessie-b



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
The article is just pointing out the obvious visa restrictions. No degree equals no visa!!!

Rolling Eyes

I was having a chat with a Korean friend yesterday and he agreed that many teachers in Korea have limited experience and/or little qualifications. We started talking about visa restrictions for teachers etc and I came up with a pretty good idea really.

Imagine that the more qualified teachers have a chance to get a better visa (like indefinite leave to remain in Korea - F5) and the less qualified teachers have visa restrictions (like on the current E2). This would have the positive effect of getting qualified or non-qualified teachers interested in professional development and Korea gains more qualified teachers. It is common sense really but I don't think Korea would consider it. It is too easy.

Thus, the quality of teachers in Korea rises and everyone is a winner. Korea becomes more open and there is a better sense of multi-culturalism.

What do you think?


Its a good idea but will mean nothing in the larger scope. Qualification of Korean English teachers might mitigate the education chaos. Are there many opportunities for professional development here? From what I hear, qualified teachers hit the glass ceiling pretty quickly.
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Kimchi Cha Cha



Joined: 15 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:
The article is just pointing out the obvious visa restrictions. No degree equals no visa!!!

Rolling Eyes

I was having a chat with a Korean friend yesterday and he agreed that many teachers in Korea have limited experience and/or little qualifications. We started talking about visa restrictions for teachers etc and I came up with a pretty good idea really.

Imagine that the more qualified teachers have a chance to get a better visa (like indefinite leave to remain in Korea - F5) and the less qualified teachers have visa restrictions (like on the current E2). This would have the positive effect of getting qualified or non-qualified teachers interested in professional development and Korea gains more qualified teachers. It is common sense really but I don't think Korea would consider it. It is too easy.

Thus, the quality of teachers in Korea rises and everyone is a winner. Korea becomes more open and there is a better sense of multi-culturalism.

What do you think?


Sounds good.

Would never fly though on the grounds that it makes too much sense. Alas.
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jessie-b



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: No Visas for Unqualified English Instructors Reply with quote

marlow wrote:
jessie-b wrote:
marlow wrote:



Anyone thinking about coming to Korea--DON'T. Go to China instead. There are more jobs, and the pay is better--TRUST ME.


You really think so? The pay seems to be less.


I was being arrogantly sarcastic. I should use the Wink, I guess.


ooooohhhhh.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whistleblower wrote:

Imagine that the more qualified teachers have a chance to get a better visa (like indefinite leave to remain in Korea - F5) and the less qualified teachers have visa restrictions (like on the current E2). This would have the positive effect of getting qualified or non-qualified teachers interested in professional development and Korea gains more qualified teachers. It is common sense really but I don't think Korea would consider it. It is too easy.

Thus, the quality of teachers in Korea rises and everyone is a winner. Korea becomes more open and there is a better sense of multi-culturalism.


Would never work, because:

1) Politicians NEVER do anything intelligent. A self-improving system meant to improve the quality of teachers would never fly on the grounds that it makes sense.

2) We're in Korea. I think that's an explanation in and of itself.
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