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What is your opinion about studying Korean? |
I study/will study Korean. It's a crime to live in a foreign country and not learn the language. |
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I study/will study Korean. It greatly adds to the Korean experience. |
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I'd like to study Korean but I don't have enough time. |
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I'd like to study Korean but it's too difficult/I've never had a gift for languages. |
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I'm not hostile to studying Korean but I'd never use it again after leaving Korea. |
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What's the point? Loads of people speak English here anyway. |
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Other (Please state) |
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ABC KID
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: Attitudes To Learning Korean. |
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Please share your thoughts and attitudes on learning Korean... |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I study Korean, but no for those reasons.
It is certainly not a crime not to speak it. I just choose to study it. If others don't want to, power to them. |
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nobbyken

Joined: 07 Jun 2006 Location: Yongin ^^
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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None of the reasons above.
I started learning in the UK, before marrying my Korean wife.
English is often called the international language, which is why most people learn English (just a thought).
This is quite a difficult country to live in, more difficult if you have no confidence to speak to any of the natives. If you learn to read hangul (can take you about 4 x 1-hour sessions), the land feels less alien and your outlook changes.
I went on a 10-week morning course, and the teachers had very little English, which left me feeling lost and isolated: the rest of the class was Chinese, but did have some English. I also study by book now.
My students faces light up if I say anything in Korean, and quickly gets there attention. Gives a a common bond: they are learning English and I am learning Korean.
Do you see your students excited and happy when they learn something new?
Same happens when your Korean language ability rises.
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LUCRETIA

Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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Well it depends doesn't it?
If you're only here for a year, I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting that you will never use the language again and just learn a little to get by.
There always seem to be some uppity old-timers who think it's awful that you don't study it formally, but, honestly, what for?
I don't intend staying here for that long. |
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pest2

Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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nobbyken wrote: |
My students faces light up if I say anything in Korean, and quickly gets there attention. Gives a a common bond: they are learning English and I am learning Korean.
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They may or may not respect you more if they know you are learning Korean. But if they know you speak their native language, it will be detrimental to their learning English... |
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vox

Joined: 13 Feb 2005 Location: Jeollabukdo
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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I love using Korean, and I'm passionate about learning it, but I don't love the great difficulty in finding a good Korean teacher who's accountable for his/her teaching. It's quite difficult, actually, to find a good teacher.
The approach of finding a verb and conjugation and attempting to fill in new variables to make new sentences was a frustrating one. I used to ride very hard the few teachers I'd had for all the context dependent stuff. I'm still not sure, but it seems that a lot more culture is needed to accompany the teaching of this language - for me - than was the case when I studied Portuguese, French or German.
But now I've made it far enough that I can self-study the forms off of movie subtitles and backtrack in reflection with English-speaking Koreans, and not worry so much about the usage.
Everybody knows that language acquisition is a series of plateaus and climbing to those plateaus. Perhaps I'm just happy because I'm leaving an old plateau. But I'd prefer that *I* taught the Korean I know to my friends than have them suffer my old Korean teachers.
Of course, I don't live in Seoul. That may be my whole problem right there. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Learn hangul. Learn the basics to be polite and get your coffee and food and grocery store bag. If you seek better employment, non teaching jobs, settle down in Korea with a wife, for sure, learn Korean. If you're just here for a couple years, take it if you like the intellectual exercise. But for pragmatic reasons, I can't see it having on the job value back in North America (unless you want to try and get a future transfer back to Korea and earn expat wages). |
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colonel sanders

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Location: the middle of the middle of nowhere
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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pest2 wrote: |
But if they know you speak their native language, it will be detrimental to their learning English... |
I disagree completely. I work with students that begin with around zero ability. A lot of times its more effective to give a translation than running around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to make the point. Also, I think it helps comfort the students by showing them its ok, and a part of learning the language, to make mistakes. I always have my pronounciation corrected by the students.
Learning korean reverses the role for me and puts me in my students shoes. I can experience their struggles which makes me a more understanding, tolerant, and effective teacher.
Honestly, though, the main reason I am learning korean is to flirt with girls. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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it's not only useless outside of Korea, but -at the risk of being unpopular- it's ugly-sounding. flame away, boys. |
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laura-and-ryan

Joined: 01 Sep 2007 Location: Bucheon, Orig from Ireland and Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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pest2 wrote: |
nobbyken wrote: |
My students faces light up if I say anything in Korean, and quickly gets there attention. Gives a a common bond: they are learning English and I am learning Korean.
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They may or may not respect you more if they know you are learning Korean. But if they know you speak their native language, it will be detrimental to their learning English... |
That isn't true at all. It doesn't hurt them at all if you can say a few things in Korean. Quite often I ask my students to teach me a phrase and I butcher it a few times but then eventually I'll get it Before I did this they were all afraid to try and speak English because they couldn't speak it well and were afraid of failure. It also does create a good bond and also an understanding: If the teacher is trying to learn why can�t I? |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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pest2 wrote: |
They may or may not respect you more if they know you are learning Korean. But if they know you speak their native language, it will be detrimental to their learning English... |
wrong.
learning the language of your students lends authority to you. It shows that you know the pain and difficulties of language learning. Furthermore it allows you to empathize with students. how could you possible respect a language teacher who hasn't learned another language. |
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Intrepid
Joined: 13 May 2004 Location: Yongin
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:06 am Post subject: Enough |
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Learned enough to get by in most conversations. When someone compliments me I say I'm like a first generation immigrant taxi driver in NYC (his English, my Korean)--I can debrouiller, but that's it. No incentive to learn any more, and too hard. |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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I studied a lot when I was single and living the bachelor's life. When I met my wife 3 years ago I kinda gave up. Her English is good enough that I don't really need it. As it stands now, I have a very good vocabulary but my grammar is crap.
Knowing some words DEFINITELY helps my students. Not only for their learning, but they seem to relax so much after I throw out my first few words. It's like they finally understand that I am indeed a human being. |
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atomic42

Joined: 06 Jul 2007 Location: Gimhae
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:17 am Post subject: |
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In a word: Meh. |
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Vicissitude

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: Chef School
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:07 am Post subject: |
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KWhitehead wrote: |
it's not only useless outside of Korea, but -at the risk of being unpopular- it's ugly-sounding. flame away, boys. |
I agree. I can't stand the sound of the Korean language. I'd rather eat nails than learn Korean. It's the only language that I really can't stand to listen to. I've learned the basics of two foreign languages. I've also tried to learn the basics of quite a few other languages. So I do understand the difficulties of learning a foreign language. |
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