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The UN and those WMD's in Syria.

 
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dmbfan



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: The UN and those WMD's in Syria. Reply with quote

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UN Admits Saddam Had WMD
Yet another under-reported story that masks reality: last week the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) -- that group of Inspector Clouseaus who were stumbling around Iraq before the war while losing the game of hide-and-seek with Saddam's henchmen -- gave a briefing to the U.N. Security Council about the movement of Iraqi WMD out of the country before, during and after the war.
Demetrius Perricos told the Council, "The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," and said inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.
The World Tribune reported on Perricos's briefing. "He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month... The Baghdad missile site contained a range of WMD and dual-use components, UN officials said. They included missile components, reactor vessel and fermenters ... required for the production of chemical and biological warheads. 'It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for,' Perricos's spokesman, said. 'You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter. You can also use it to breed anthrax.'"

Finally, the U.N. admits what the rest of the world (minus the loony left) has known for a year. Prohibited missiles, equipment that would make a bio-terrorist's heart leap, and yellow cake. Tons of yellowcake.
Summing up:

We know that the infamous "16 words" were true, verified by both British and French intelligence.
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence's report declared that the administration did not seek to "coerce, influence or pressure analysts to change their judgments related to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction capabilities."
We know that Iraq had at least 1.77 metric tons of low-enriched uranium and roughly 1,000 highly radioactive sources -- because we now have them stored in Tennessee! Materials that could have been used to manufacture a �dirty� radiological bomb or even support a nuclear weapons program.
Way back in January, another U.N. entity, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), discovered 5 pounds of radioactive uranium oxide in a shipment of scrap metal at Rotterdam harbor. The metal came from Iraq via a dealer in Jordan.
Last month, an IAEA spokesman said the IAEA had work to do in Iraq �because we know they still have the know-how� to make weapons of mass destruction.
In May, Candian Prime Minister Paul Martin told a crowd of about 700 university researchers and business leaders in Montreal, "The fact is that there is now, we know well, a proliferation of nuclear weapons, and that many weapons that Saddam Hussein had, we don't know where they are. That means terrorists have access to all of that."
The UNMOVIC report admits that there were "a number of sites in Iraq containing equipment and materials that could be used to produce illicit weapons. Further, �recent satellite imagery� from commercial sources (i.e., it doesn't take super-secret high-tech CIA spy satellites to see the obvious) shows that some of these sites �have been either cleaned out or destroyed�; and that there has been �extensive removal of equipment and, in some instances�entire buildings� from Iraqi nuclear facilities.
We know that missile engines used in both Iraq�s SA-2 surface-to-air missiles and its prohibited surface-to-surface al Samoud missiles have been discovered in Europe.
Inspectors believe at least some of these engines have also reached Turkey and hope to search Turkish ports in the near future.
Twenty engines from banned Iraqi missiles [SA-2] were found in a Jordanian scrap yard with other equipment ["dual use"] that could be used for weapons of mass destruction.
The report said the U.N. inspectors also found papers showing illegal contracts by Iraq for a missile guidance system, laser ring gyroscopes and a variety of production and testing equipment not previously disclosed (there's a shocker).
Additionally, Iraq acquired �a variety of dual-use� items and materials for possible use in biological or chemical weapons programs, but there is �no evidence� that Iraq actually used the materials for weapons purposes. Although some of these items were acquired through illicit channels, Iraq eventually declared most of them to UNMOVIC. Some of these declarations, however, were �misleading,� the report says. [Please remember that Resolution 1441 gave Iraq a "final opportunity" to produce "a currently accurate, full, and complete declaration of all aspects of its programmes to develop chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons, ballistic missiles, and other delivery systems".]
The U.N. team also discovered some processing equipment with U.N. tags � which show that it was being monitored � including heat exchangers, and a solid propellant mixer bowl to make missile fuel, he said. It also discovered "a large number of other processing equipment without tags, in very good condition." [Without tags, i.e., hidden from inspectors, secreted about the country, undeclared, undisclosed, and in violation of 1441!]
The New York Times admits that while many of the items "bear tags placed by United Nations inspectors as suspect dual-use materials having capabilities for creating harmless consumer products as well as unconventional weapons" [unconventional weapons is the new PC way of not saying chemical and bio weapons], some items were not known to the U.N. (i.e., undisclosed, in violation of 1441).
This equipment included fermenters, a freeze drier, distillation columns, parts of missiles and a reactor vessel - all tools suitable for making biological or chemical weapons.

"It raises the question of what happened to the dual-use equipment, where is it now and what is it being used for," Mr. Buchanan said. He said that a fermenter was a good example of a dual-use item that was potentially dangerous if it fell into the wrong hands. "You can make all kinds of pharmaceutical and medicinal products with a fermenter," he said. "You can also use it to breed anthrax." [That's right -- undisclosed, hidden equipment capable of breeding anthrax!]

We know that 20 tons of chemicals that were to be used in an attack on Jordan, and that although they were coming across the Syria-Jordan border, Syria does not have the capability to produce chemical weapons on that kind of scale. But they took money from Saddam to hide WMD.
And of course, everyone knows about the ammo cannisters that contain mustard and sarin gas. You know, the cannisters they couldn't account for destroying -- because they didn't destroy them!
If Saddam was still in power and this information were released today, it would be a solid case for going to war, liberating Iraq, and removing these materials from the control of an America-hating madman.
Once again, although the mainstream media is reporting this story in bits and pieces, it refuses to connect the dots.

Too busy connecting dots to show that Kerry's foul-mouthed Hollywood friends are "the heart and soul of America". Or that polls show a nation more divided than ever (which is bull -- study up on Rosevelt. Or the Civil War.).

Just like they are too busy showing the bad in Iraq and ignoring the many successes.

And strangely enough, this briefing is not on the UNMOVIC web site. Huh! I wonder why? Afraid it will be one more proof that America was right and that the U.N. was protecting the largest corruption ring in history?

One last point. Many on the left are no doubt lambasting the U.S. for not protecting this geographically dispersed nuclear compounds, missile sites and ammo dumps. Yet no one seems to be lambasting the U.N. for not stepping up and helping us out by providing troops that didn't have to do anything except sit on their butts protecting these sites [the one duty they seem to do well] while coalition solders were off quelling hot-spots and hunting foreign terrorists.

Blog post #3125 in category War, Terrorism,& the Military
posted 13 July 04


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partisan op-eds from during the last election does not truth make.
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Partisan op-eds from during the last election does not truth make.


Unless they are far left-wing, right? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

Do you have an example of someone posting a partisan far-left article from the last election? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been said time and time again..........

"Far left liberals don't deal well with facts. What is important is "Bush lied! There were no WMDs It's an immoral war". Anything that jepordizes those basic beliefs isn't dealt with. They are not going to argue since they can't refute the facts. Tommorrow or the next day theyy will be saying "Bush lied! There were no WMDs It's an immoral war". Your comments won't even cause a ripple......"


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about near or middle left liberals. Why always far left? It sounds silly.

Seems to me America should invade Iran post haste as they have WMDs and come to think of it, quite a few others too. Get on it, oh saviors of the world...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:19 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
Do you have an example of someone posting a partisan far-left article from the last election? Rolling Eyes


Laughing
Are you serious?
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Pligganease



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JMO wrote:
How about near or middle left liberals. Why always far left? It sounds silly.


Because near or middle left liberals are moderate. Moderate people lend credence to all opinions instead of condemning other for theirs.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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Are you serious?


Yes. Show me a far-left partisan op-ed piece from 2004 that someone has recently posted. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
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Are you serious?


Yes. Show me a far-left partisan op-ed piece from 2004 that someone has recently posted. Rolling Eyes


Get real... Discussing something from 2004 is hardly above, and hardly uncommon, those who share your ideals.
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

No, you get real.

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Discussing something from 2004 is hardly above, and hardly uncommon, those who share your ideals.


Don't make a strawman.

Show me a far-left partisan op-ed piece from 2004 that someone has recently posted. Rolling Eyes

Just to be perfectly clear, show me someone starting a thread with one.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: ... Reply with quote

Nowhere Man wrote:
Don't make a strawman.

But what's he going to hug at night when the pain of the failure of his neo-con ideologies gets to be too much?

Don't be cruel. That's like denying children money for medical care.
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