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[kentucker4]

What are some good ones I can use without the kids thinking I am mean? One of my class of first graders was good until this particular girl was transferred into my class. She makes fun of me to all of the other students and calls me crazy and pig...and lot's of other things. She also gets all of the other students to laugh and join in. I told her to leave the class today and she no..you leave! I stay! Then the the bell rang so I had to let them all go. This student has become a big problem quickly. All of the other students in that class also mouth off now.

[Milwaukiedave]

Well there are a few different ways of dealing with it. You can encourage them to behave good and dole out check marks when they are bad and at the end of the week hand out candy, then when little Ms. "I want to call everyone a pig" realizes why she's not getting candy maybe she'll wise up.

The other way is crack the whip and be mean. Put her in the corner and make her put her hands up in the air for 5-10 minutes. That ought to have her crying her poor little eyes out.

[kentucker4]

[Milwaukiedave]

Get meanier...make'em cry.

[spliff]

[Jizzo T. Clown]

[Young FRANKenstein]

[kentucker4]

I guess I am just way too nice. I will change that.

[ESL Milk "Everyday]

If it's some hagwon the director might get on your case if you start being too mean to them... because they're how he's making his money. I like the whole 'hands off' thing.

If it's just something little, I do the standing with their arms in the air, and sometimes I take away their chair... there's a mirror in every class I have, so sometimes I make them stand with their arms up while looking at themselves in the mirror.

If it's a little more major or a lot of kids, you could try giving them lines, or if they're an advanced class, try getting them to write in English about what they said and/or did... correct their spelling and grammar, and then, to drive it home, get their parents to sign it. Make sure it's really their parent's signature by showing the staff. That's my favorite!

If it's REALLY bad, and it sounds like it is, then you could try really coming down on her hard, standing over her shoulder and making her read something long like a story or something, then if she makes even the tiniest mistake, make her read it over, until it's absolutely perfect. When she's finished, ask questions about what she read, and if she makes a single grammatical or content mistake in her reply, make her read it over again. Trust me, a few days of that and she will shut up. And if anyone steps out of line or says anything while you're doing it, ask that person a question-- and if they get it wrong, make that person the new focus. And whatever you do, don't back down or let them off easy on anything.

I suppose that's the harshest I've gotten (for the real problem cases)!

[Jizzo T. Clown]

[Funky Chunk]

In addition to the behavior plan I posted on your last topic, for every infraction I also had the kids fill out the following behavior sheet:

I am filling out the behavior sheet because I ___________. This was unacceptable because __________. In the future I will ___________ instead.

As for physical punishment, I felt that the arms up thing took too long. I had the older kids lean against the wall with their knees bent at a 90 degree angle and their arms straight out. They had to balance a book on their arms and another on their lap. I made them stay there until it looked like it hurt, which was usually under 30 seconds. I devoted a few minutes at the start of class to have all the kids try it for a minute so they'd see how much it hurt. The demo was enough to deter most kids. For the few who earned the punishment, it took no more than having to do it 3 times before they figured out that it wasn't worth it to misbehave in my class.

[mrsquirrel]

Print out a life sized mask of Chris Neil and wear it to class. That will scare her into being good.

[xCustomx]

You are not there to be their friend. It's easier to discipline them from the start and then be friendlier later on than vice versa. Try not to feel bad when you make a kid cry either, because it's bound to happen

[Yu_Bum_suk]

First grade what? - elementary, middle, high school? If she's first grade elementary why don't you just carry her out of the class if she refuses to leave? One thing I can guarentee is that reasoning is not going to work in such a situation.

[Jizzo T. Clown]