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Jizzo T. Clown
Joined: 27 Mar 2006
Location: at my wit's end
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
Yes, because everyone knows that eloquence + logic = immaturity. Especially if the poster is basically on your side. |
Wtf is this drivel? Are you on drugs?
OP--
Run. Run away, far far away. And the next time something doesn't work out quite the way you'd expected, run away then too. In fact, I would run away any time the going got tough. Heaven forbid you go to your boss and try to work things out, or, at the very least, give him an ultimatum. People skills come with experience, my friend. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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| greenthaicurry wrote: |
First time on here and desperately need some advice as regards leaving Korea.
It will sound daft and wimpish I'm sure to say that I am considering the above having only been here a short while.
Basically, I came here on a whim, mainly for the money and the idea of a rent-free existence. I was weighing up a teaching opportunity closer to home in Europe, but the money was awful and it seemed I would be defeating the object.
I am well travelled worldwide and have previously visited 7 other Asian countries other than Korea and have a genuine feel for the continent.
However, I now realise that all is not what it was cracked up to be. My living conditions are not satisfactory (far from it) and the main school I am teaching in (for there are two) is hellish. I am the sole foreigner and there is only one bilingual Korean teacher who is willing to help when asked.
She tells me that the previous foreign English teacher left after 3 months and that none of the Korean staff liked him at all (I imagine they weren't backward in coming forward when letting him know this). A few things I have seen suggest things are't what they seem and I get the feeling I'm getting a bit of a follow on and it doesn't bode well.
Whatsmore (and somewhat typically) another opportunity has arisen at home which might well be worth a punt. A massive U-turn it would be, but i already know that Korea is definitely not for me, and although it may sound like the rant of a quitter, I am not one to hang around for the sake of it.
Naturally, should I decide to leave at this early stage, this could doubtless bring about problems.
To even try and explain my reasons to those in charge could make things a hell of a lot worse for me and I don't know what to do should I up and leave.
The decent and honourable thing to do would be for me to verbally agree to terminate my contract and for me to re-imburse them the cost of the flight - which is not a problem. It is not a money issue at all.
That said, I am the distrusting type I suppose (and feel like I have good reason here) and am just keen to leave the country first and foremost and then start feeling guilty (and re-imbursing them for for my flight.
However.......logistically / legally speaking, can I be stopped by anyone at the airport should I leave unnanounced to the school?
Does the E2 visa tie me in legally and will this be seized upon by airport officials?
Is a 'midnight run' even a realistic option? I know it should be the last option and not the first, but the only thing keeping me going right now is the thought of leaving Korea.
I'm curious to cover any angle and would hugely appreciate any help whatsoever with these issues. I must stress that on the face of it, the school has not breached their contract. My worry is if my honesty comes back to haunt me and life becomes more difficult as a result.
Korean food by the way....not a patch on any other Asian country i think. Real shame that.
Thanks heaps for any help
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How long have you been here?
I too have been here shortly am the only foreigner at my school and get almost no help with my students who don't seem to respect me or show any respect at all. I still have cold water and no TV and I have broken out in rashes for some reason that won't seem to heal and am starting to get sick...don't know why. But my point is, I will never quit this gig unless they somehow screwed me over like didn't pay me or something. Moving to the other side of the world only to quit is not a good thing to do for yourself IMO. Odds are, you most likely will regret it. But on the other hand, it's your life and decision. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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| kentucker4 wrote: |
How long have you been here?
I too have been here shortly am the only foreigner at my school and get almost no help with my students who don't seem to respect me or show any respect at all. I still have cold water and no TV and I have broken out in rashes for some reason that won't seem to heal and am starting to get sick...don't know why. But my point is, I will never quit this gig unless they somehow screwed me over like didn't pay me or something. Moving to the other side of the world only to quit is not a good thing to do for yourself IMO. Odds are, you most likely will regret it. But on the other hand, it's your life and decision. |
You've obviously got a worse deal than the OP. Hope you get some warm water soon, especially before the onset of winter. I'd be complaining about that until it got fixed! Rashes? I'd see a doctor soon. If you are getting sick, take a look around your walls for any dark mold. That stuff is a killer. It put me in the emergency room. I was caughing so bad they did chest x-rays to see if I had broken ribs or TB. It was the mold that spread all over my walls around the whole apartment where anything was next to a wall. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Stay captive for the larger picture. Whatever the hell that is. The larger picture.
Go to the labor board for the larger picture and waste your time for the larger picture.
"Let's stick the new teacher in a moldy box with no furniture and ignore them. See what we can get away with. Cut costs. Yeah. Let's not help them until they're crying for it. Then let's make up deductions and see how much we can take out of their check until they say something. Then if they say something, let's deny it until our backs are against the wall. Yeah. Let's ignore the fact that we have to make them feel comfortable here and that they'll need certain things. Yeah. Might cost us a dollar. Yeah."
For the larger picture. Whatever. Shouldn't have invested in a fkn plane ticket in the first place if you're gonna throw a teacher in a moldy box. Have to teach these idiots to be careful. Doesn't work the other way around.
Pull a runner? Sure. Why the hell not. Irresponsible? Who? The owners. That's who. Be a martyr and stay for the sake of the kids who'll miss out on a precious 10 hours or something of English education instead of getting crappy English education because someone is in a crappy situation?
Get real.
"I stayed and I was in a bad situation. I worked it out." Well good for you. I guess I did too, but it doesn't mean others have to. All that I had to do shouldn't have to be done. And it's not like you change the person who initially tries to screw you. People don't change. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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Most times I would agree that we owe nothing to the school owners. They lie, cheat, steal and deceive us at will. They usually don't have any ethics or morals. BUT...if the school is not doing these things then we should try to be honest.
--But really....the OP should just do what is best for him or her. Always do what is best for you. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Jizzo T. Clown wrote: |
| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
Yes, because everyone knows that eloquence + logic = immaturity. Especially if the poster is basically on your side. |
Wtf is this drivel? Are you on drugs?
OP--
Run. Run away, far far away. And the next time something doesn't work out quite the way you'd expected, run away then too. In fact, I would run away any time the going got tough. Heaven forbid you go to your boss and try to work things out, or, at the very least, give him an ultimatum. People skills come with experience, my friend. |
You have just proven my (sarcastic) message beyond a shadow of a doubt. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
To the OP:
Somehow I get the feeling you are not telling the full story...
... However, if your employers react by treating you like dirt, then take heart. I am certain that you will earn the full respect, support and condolences of the apologists on this thread if you do what they suggest.
Put them to the test. |
If he is not telling the full story and his employers treat him like dirt, because of details that were not disclosed in the abridged version, well it depends on those details now, wouldn't it?
I've heard that thinking before posting works well...why not give it a shot next time? |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
How long have you been here?
I too have been here shortly am the only foreigner at my school and get almost no help with my students who don't seem to respect me or show any respect at all. I still have cold water and no TV and I have broken out in rashes for some reason that won't seem to heal and am starting to get sick...don't know why. But my point is, I will never quit this gig unless they somehow screwed me over like didn't pay me or something. Moving to the other side of the world only to quit is not a good thing to do for yourself IMO. Odds are, you most likely will regret it. But on the other hand, it's your life and decision. |
You've obviously got a worse deal than the OP. Hope you get some warm water soon, especially before the onset of winter. I'd be complaining about that until it got fixed! Rashes? I'd see a doctor soon. If you are getting sick, take a look around your walls for any dark mold. That stuff is a killer. It put me in the emergency room. I was caughing so bad they did chest x-rays to see if I had broken ribs or TB. It was the mold that spread all over my walls around the whole apartment where anything was next to a wall. |
This is going to make me look like an idiot, but I just found out last night from my boss that it's not good to drink the tap water here. I have been drinking it non stop since I have been here. I typed in google after he told me and found all sorts of bad things. That must be why I am getting strange rashes and sores. Oh, my water was fixed last night.  |
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Thunndarr
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
To the OP:
Somehow I get the feeling you are not telling the full story...
... However, if your employers react by treating you like dirt, then take heart. I am certain that you will earn the full respect, support and condolences of the apologists on this thread if you do what they suggest.
Put them to the test. |
If he is not telling the full story and his employers treat him like dirt, because of details that were not disclosed in the abridged version, well it depends on those details now, wouldn't it?
I've heard that thinking before posting works well...why not give it a shot next time? |
Coming from the guy who thought his employer was paying 40 million won every year for his housing? Are you really telling someone else they need to think before posting? |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| Barking Mad Lord Snapcase wrote: |
To the OP:
Somehow I get the feeling you are not telling the full story...
... However, if your employers react by treating you like dirt, then take heart. I am certain that you will earn the full respect, support and condolences of the apologists on this thread if you do what they suggest.
Put them to the test. |
If he is not telling the full story and his employers treat him like dirt, because of details that were not disclosed in the abridged version, well it depends on those details now, wouldn't it? |
1: I assumed the "full story" to somehow involve the OP's home country, including the "opportunity" mentioned. If you know anything about business, details such as this are sometimes kept confidential for a good reason.
2: I considered the possibility that his employers would treat him like dirt in reaction to giving his notice. Please try to keep up.
3: I am making the assumption that your lot are probably right for a change. Try and show some gratitude.
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| I've heard that thinking before posting works well...why not give it a shot next time? |
I agree. It should boost your credibility enormously. |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:34 pm Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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[quote="kentucker4"][quote="Vicissitude"]
| kentucker4 wrote: |
This is going to make me look like an idiot, but I just found out last night from my boss that it's not good to drink the tap water here. I have been drinking it non stop since I have been here. I typed in google after he told me and found all sorts of bad things. That must be why I am getting strange rashes and sores. Oh, my water was fixed last night. |
The water is one possibility ... The other to consider is the washing powder ... A friend of mine had rashes which nothing seemed to fix and multiple doctors visits ... but after I suggested it might be the washing powder ... after he started putting less powder in and rinsing the clothes well ... the rash went away ...
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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O.P.... get out of there. Life is short. Why waste it working for people who don't care whatsoever about your well-being?
If ESL teaching is not your thing, oh well. You tried it. As for leaving the school with a problem, well, if they were better organised and treated their employees well, they wouldn't have to worry about that, would they?
So, run run run! |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: Re: HELP! Midnight run - a viable option? |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| kentucker4 wrote: |
How long have you been here?
I too have been here shortly am the only foreigner at my school and get almost no help with my students who don't seem to respect me or show any respect at all. I still have cold water and no TV and I have broken out in rashes for some reason that won't seem to heal and am starting to get sick...don't know why. But my point is, I will never quit this gig unless they somehow screwed me over like didn't pay me or something. Moving to the other side of the world only to quit is not a good thing to do for yourself IMO. Odds are, you most likely will regret it. But on the other hand, it's your life and decision. |
You've obviously got a worse deal than the OP. Hope you get some warm water soon, especially before the onset of winter. I'd be complaining about that until it got fixed! Rashes? I'd see a doctor soon. If you are getting sick, take a look around your walls for any dark mold. That stuff is a killer. It put me in the emergency room. I was caughing so bad they did chest x-rays to see if I had broken ribs or TB. It was the mold that spread all over my walls around the whole apartment where anything was next to a wall. |
This is going to make me look like an idiot, but I just found out last night from my boss that it's not good to drink the tap water here. I have been drinking it non stop since I have been here. I typed in google after he told me and found all sorts of bad things. That must be why I am getting strange rashes and sores. Oh, my water was fixed last night. |
Did you at least boil the water before you drank it? People generally don't drink water straight from the tap anywhere in Asia. As for your rashes, the water might not have anything to do with it. I seriously doubt it. Could be an allergy. Check with a doctor. |
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kentucker4
Joined: 03 Sep 2007
Location: Georgia
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| No, I just drank it cold for a little over two weeks. You think that's dangerous? |
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icicle
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Gyeonggi do Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| No, I just drank it cold for a little over two weeks. You think that's dangerous? |
Not likely to have hurt you ... The water in South Korea isn't that bad ... It is a lot better than it used to be ... But it is still true that most people don't drink unfiltered tap water ...
So far as the comment that the rash isn't likely to be the water ... A few years ago I moved cities in Australia and developed a rash when the only thing that had changed for me was the water ... As soon as I stopped drinking the water unless it was filtered the rash did go away ... The doctor suggested trying that ... because in sensitive people what is in the water can cause that sort of a reaction ... So I can see no reason why this could not be the case here ... Effectively it is an allergic reaction ... but before you used anything else it is worth seeing if stopping drinking the water does help in your case ...
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