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Public Displays of Affection: Good or Bad?

 
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Is a PDA always bad?
Yes! "Don't touch me, and don't touch each other."
13%
 13%  [ 3 ]
No! "Touch me, see me, feel me," sings Roger Daltry.
26%
 26%  [ 6 ]
No. It's fine, as long as its of a Smurfish, asexual variety.
39%
 39%  [ 9 ]
It's cool, as long as it's two hot chicks.
13%
 13%  [ 3 ]
Yes. I'm a miserable lonely basterd and I hate the visible happiness of others.
8%
 8%  [ 2 ]
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Public Displays of Affection: Good or Bad? Reply with quote

My dad was here last weekend, and commented on how open Korean people are about (presumably) non-sexual public displays of affection. They're always holding hands and hugging each other and resting their heads on each other's shoulders. We did not, however, see anybody snogging on a dance floor, or anything remotely resembling that.

He mentioned that when he was a kid in a small semi-puritanical New England town, that sort of thing wasn't really done, and they even had, at their high school, 'PDA Monitors' who would go around trying to catch teens holding hands or smooching. If they found somebody they'd holler 'PDA! PDA!' and give them a 'you are evil' voucher, and a detention, or for repeat offenders, expulsion or excommunication, or perhaps a week in the stocks. Some kind of residual Scarlet Letter trip, I guess.

Anyway, I think PDAs are generally good, but it seems a lot of my contemporaries don't. I'm curious: what's the breakdown? Please participate in my poll.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PDA is fine as long as I don't see someone in the physical act of sex. Something I did see when I was in Germany. However, it was a very drunk 23 year old American with a 16 year old and they were doing it on a trash can. That was quite gross.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm rather Puritanical. Nothing wrong with holding hands and a head on the shoulder thing, but beyond that is unnecessary. I do make a distinction between a peck on the cheek (which is OK in my book) and a kiss.

For me, the level of intimacy is important. Intimacy in public is exhibitionism. I figure if you want someone to watch you have sex, then invite some consenting adults over to your home. I have no interest in watching you, so leave me off your invitation list. Should I be in the mood for that, I'll make my own arrangements that suit me.
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i believe the rule in korea is that public displays of affection are OK as long as they are same sex displays

edit- and not in the 'its cool as long as its two hot chicks kind of way *
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really into PDA myself. Back home, my ex-girlfriend would sometimes put her hand in my back pocket while we walked and grabbed my ass. Razz Otherwise, I was fine with just holding hands and "pecking" on the lips. Public makeout sessions are a turn off for me, but to each his own I guess.

Here in Seoul, I haven't seen much PDA at all among Koreans beyond innocent hand holding and hugging. Come to think of it, I've yet to see two Koreans kiss in public and I've been here for 3 months now.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Public Displays of Affection: Good or Bad? Reply with quote

blurgalurgalurga wrote:
We did not, however, see anybody snogging on a dance floor...


You went to a club with your dad?
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freakstar wrote:
Not really into PDA myself.


Why is that, Freaka?
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, this thread certainly did not turn into a public display of affection! Keu keu!
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Here in Seoul, I haven't seen much PDA at all among Koreans beyond innocent hand holding and hugging. Come to think of it, I've yet to see two Koreans kiss in public and I've been here for 3 months now.


Back when I arrived ('94) one of my students said, "There is no kissing before marriage and very little afterwards." Confused He was serious.

I've only seen public kissing once in all this time. I saw a couple up against a telephone pole on a side street. On the other hand, noisy sex with the windows open is common--you hear quite a lot of things when you live in a building 4 feet from the neighbor's window.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how come there is no swear filter for korean?
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see public displays of affections (PDA's) being common between friends of the same gender which has nothing to do with being gay or anything other than having kindness for each other. With that said, it does feel strange to walk down the street holding arms with your male Korean friends as I can't get over the thought of looking gay, but it doesn't mean that here.


Only once have I seen a man and woman have a PDA which was on a people-later in a Homeplus store, a young adult couple put their arms around and held each other while the man was poking one finger under the waistline of her skirt.

PDA's seem to not be associated with sexuality or sexual acts, but rather as a kind act of caring for a friend though it can easily be misconstrued when you apply western ideas and logic. I noticed my Korean friends always worry about me irrationally and ask me how I am doing often with their arms around me when I am not sulfuring or having any problems.

Remember people here are only usually this warm when they get to know you and especially at night since people don't normally show emotion and individualism during the day in Korea.

This all makes for an interesting cultural learning experience.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:

I've only seen public kissing once in all this time. I saw a couple up against a telephone pole on a side street.


Really? Fairly often, during my commute, I'll see a soldier on leave (a K-Soldier, I mean) smooching the piss out of his woman. Oh, and a few months back, at one of the cafes in Myeong-dong, some friends and I saw a girl give her bf a handie. They thought they were being clever (must have fooled the Koreans... didn't look like anyone noticed them besides us), but we had a good laugh at them.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, a few months ago, I saw an older Korean couple (must have been in their 40s or 50s) holding hands and smiling. That's right, holding hands AND smiling. Then, it dawned on me. That's a rare sight in Korea.
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