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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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 Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Miles Rationis wrote: |
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Not all parents are like this in Korea though. Although it's hard to tell. Two of my students, brother and sister, always take a break from my class for a couple of months each in the summer and winter. I think that their parents must be nice. But you can never tell. Maybe they send them off to something else.
Clearly though there is not much to do at home in Korea. Maybe there's not much to do at home back home either. My sisters kids are really busy with sports. And both my sister and her husband work. So they're a really busy family.
But they don't send their kids to academies. Taekwondo, soccer, swimming, and other sports aren't academies, really.
Music? That's not even what I'm talking about. I have one student that goes to a piano academy like 4 hours a day. That's just ridiculous. Maybe once or twice a week for any activity, be it academics or recreation, is enough. But overdoing is stupid.
Can't for the life of me understand why a kid has to go to a math academy. Math can be studied at home.
Instruments can be practiced at home.
Yes, it's good for a kid to go home. Not spend all day and evening screwing about in different building. A kid needs time to think. |
So you are really interested in preventing the kids from having random, illicit, sexual relations, huh? |
Is that supposed to be funny? |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Miles Rationis wrote: |
| Trilingualism is an easy thing for a child. Children, toddlers in particular are language sponges and most of the resources in their brains are being pooled into acquiring language. Relative fluency in 3 or more languages is very easy to achieve. This is an empirical fact. If I ever propagate my DNA I am going to raise my child trilingually (I can handle either English or German), the environment can handle one more and the DNA partner can handle the other one...additional lesson to be learnt here; avoid English speaking partners as you can learn no language from them and your child will not benefit from them either. |
Sounds like you have it all planned out. Good luck with that.
Where can I buy your book? |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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My son is learning English and Korean and will learn French later. He will start out life with 3 fluent languages...lucky little dude if you ask me.
Your childs' education depends far more on you (parents) than on the place where you live.... |
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kimbabworld
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I just had a baby here, but like a lot of other people, my family and I will return to Canada when my child starts school.
yingwenlaoshi, this is off the topic, but is your avatar of City Hall in Fredericton, New Brunswick? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| There are things my kid wont have to study after school. English, ofcourse. I majored in the sciences (biochem and biology) so science and math will be things I can teach him as well. But Im sure there are things he will ant to do. id love it if he studied piano or violin. Art academies might be something he would like, or taekwondo or some other sport. I certainly hope that he wont want to just come home and do nothing but play games and watch TV. |
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Landros
Joined: 19 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:54 am Post subject: explanation |
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He is asking for parents to comment based on their experience rather than posters who haven't any children.
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| It's funny how everybody knows yet none who have posted so far have children that they raise themselves of schooling age so that they can write from experience. |
I am sorry, I think I must be really tired.. but what do you mean by children we raise ourselves?
Do we not raise our own children? So Letty goes to a daycare from about 10-5.. but before and after, her father and I are her sole carers... are we not raising her ourselves?!
I don't understand what you are trying to say. |
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KumaraKitty
Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Location: Bucheon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:49 am Post subject: |
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| We are expecting our first. We plan on raising the child bilingually, hopefully with the baby sign language to start as well. Kindergarten, 1st grade we will do here, mainly to try and help them get a solid grasp of Korean. Then back to Canada we go! |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:14 am Post subject: |
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| KumaraKitty wrote: |
| We are expecting our first. We plan on raising the child bilingually, hopefully with the baby sign language to start as well. Kindergarten, 1st grade we will do here, mainly to try and help them get a solid grasp of Korean. Then back to Canada we go! |
Agreed. A friend of mine left Korea last year with his 3-year-old and moved back to the US. I was just talking to him on MSN the other day and he said his daughter has lost most of her Korean. With the constant exposure to English (my friend's Korean wife works full-time there) and limited exposure to Korean back home, there's a danger of the child losing his/her Korean if the move is too early.
My daughter is two and a bit. We are planning on staying here at least another 5-7 years. She can easily fill in any English gaps when we move back home, as long as we do it before she's a teenager... |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Like Hanson, I have a kid just over 2 years old (a son). We have no plans to leave Korea in the near future.
I agree completely that if you make the move too early, your child might lose much of his/her Korean ability.
This can be limited if you move to a city with a large Korean community and get involved there so your child has regular contact with the language and culture. Otherwise, the language ability will fade. Your Korean wife/husband will be the main source of Korean language for the child and as soon as she/he starts to work full-time and your kid starts daycare/school...English or the prevalent language will dominate.....
As for us, we are not sure what we will do when our son (and our other kids when we make em) reach high school age...international schools seem to be the way. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| kimbabworld wrote: |
I just had a baby here, but like a lot of other people, my family and I will return to Canada when my child starts school.
yingwenlaoshi, this is off the topic, but is your avatar of City Hall in Fredericton, New Brunswick? |
Yes. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
Like Hanson, I have a kid just over 2 years old (a son). We have no plans to leave Korea in the near future.
I agree completely that if you make the move too early, your child might lose much of his/her Korean ability.
This can be limited if you move to a city with a large Korean community and get involved there so your child has regular contact with the language and culture. Otherwise, the language ability will fade. Your Korean wife/husband will be the main source of Korean language for the child and as soon as she/he starts to work full-time and your kid starts daycare/school...English or the prevalent language will dominate.....
As for us, we are not sure what we will do when our son (and our other kids when we make em) reach high school age...international schools seem to be the way. |
Oh well. They lose Korean. No biggie. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| Oh well. They lose Korean. No biggie. |
Well..Ying..at the very least it would be a biggie to my Korean wife and to the grandparents of my son who are by the way Korean...  
But as you said..no biggie my man... |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I'm a little worried about my childrens' English acquisition. They understand me, mostly, that is when talking about basic things, but there are times, for example, when my son might ask his mom about a word Daddy used, or he might ask me in a sort of broken down English.
I do worry about that. But then I read here that a teenager exposed to it from the start, but not a native speaker, applied their knowledge easily enough when they attended high school in the west.
I have reservations about that.
I believe they got their knowledge from years of hakwon study.
So, it's gonna be vital to re-start my son and daughter on a study routine above and beyond the vast amount of intense stuff that the elementary school requires.
Man, my son is good at math. I can't believe how slow NZ is at tapping into kids' brains to get them started on problem solving - Korean public school math is a good four years ahead of NZ public school. Even language study, like creative writing in diaries etc seems years ahead.
But alas, it ain't in English. And Daddy can't afford an international school.
At least they are developing their brains. |
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MarionG
Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| JohninMaine, you may call it "bumping the post up," or any other name you come up with, and you may say it gets monotonous for you, but it's not you that it primarily irritates, it's everyone else on the board. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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You guys do realize true fluency in more than one language is extremly rare. In fluency I mean by being to understand and communitcate (written and spoken) like a native in that language. For most people there will be one language they will be most comfortable in.
However, being strong in another language is a good goal (like so many kyopos here). Also, exposure is very important to keep your second language at a decent level.
Base on what I've seen among friends, if you move them sometime in middles school (age 12/13ish). They will be strong in both languages. But, will probably prefer their first language. |
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