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Emma Clare
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Anseong, sung, song.
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 Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:31 am Post subject: Boiling cats ALIVE because it's good for the health |
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Holy f***!! Not only illegally eating cats and dogs after beating them to death and electrocuting them.
....But boiling cats alive to make health elixirs?? Are these people insane??? (I've SEEN those things they boil them in, in the backstreets. God, I think I'm going to throw up)
http://www.koreananimals.org/cats_p5.htm
What is WRONG with the Korean public that they can smother their precious little darling poochie woochies with love and affection, and yet they turn a blind eye to all of this??? Surely they must have some idea of what is going on? They can't be THAT ignorant.....But wait! In the case of cats, they're evil. Ooops! That's OK then! 
Oh well. Never mind that we brutalise and torture living creatures, just as long as it means we can increase our potency in bed (which, BTW, is just a false concept promoted by dog sellers to make MONEY) or have extra glowing skin.
Sorry. I've been getting steadily angrier and angrier about the widespread (and apparently accepted) ill treatment of animals in this country ever since I got here. I know no-one really cares that much and it's not our problem right? 
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jacktar
Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Location: �� �� ��
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:36 am Post subject: |
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Notice the kitty calendar in the background?  |
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Emma Clare
Joined: 24 May 2003
Location: Anseong, sung, song.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:48 am Post subject: |
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I think it's actually a dog in the picture. Apparently Koreans really like dogs  |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Cats smell bad. Boiling them gets rid of that foul urine, uh, stench.
Were you to be smelling urine the whole day like I have to, you'd want to do the same.
Please respect your fellow human beings and not some stray animal that has no qualms about tearing up sofas with it's claws.
Please.
I ask you nicely. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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Say what?! Respect? Gee Bradley!
Cats do what cats do! And that's claw up the sofa! Don't like it, it sounds like a personal problem! Train the cat to not claw the sofa! You have to smell urine all day? Why? |
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Because he keeps pissing himself when he tries to mack on chicks and they punch his square in the nose.
I know that cat boiling is very bad, but I have the same take on crabs and lobsters. I don't care if their span of memory is all of 3 seconds, you're boiling an animal alive. |
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jaderedux
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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This one is always a tough call. Seems we don't mind the inhumane killing of chickens....check one out sometimes.....or cattle. They are stunned (not killed) then their throats are slit while they are still alive. Shall we talk about veal, pate and killing cute little minks.
Where do ya draw the line. It's okay to boil a lobster but not a cat. I don't like either one but man it gets to be a tough call after awhile. I mean how about all those silk worm pupae boiled and eaten....is that cruel or is it okay to boil a worm before they are dead.........
I don't know the answer but before we all get our moral panties in a wad we should be sure we never hurt a living thing to eat or for enjoyment. i.e.; horse racing, fishing, hunting etc.
Jade |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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I am one of those who believe before we start giving animals all kinds of rights and waste money on protecting them, housing them, and prosecuting those who abuse them, we should be looking after our homeless, poor and runaways.
I also think there is a difference between your typical household cat and the numerous strays out there on the streets tearing up garbage, screaming at all hours of the night and generally not doing much be causing trouble.
Yes this might be disturbing, but go look how how we treat our own race - that is the Human race, when we have erased some of our social problems, maybe then I will have time to care about some animal. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:47 pm Post subject: Re: Boiling cats ALIVE because it's good for the health |
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| Emma Clare wrote: |
Oh well. Never mind that we brutalise and torture living creatures, just as long as it means we can increase our potency in bed (which, BTW, is just a false concept promoted by dog sellers to make MONEY) or have extra glowing skin.
Sorry. I've been getting steadily angrier and angrier about the widespread (and apparently accepted) ill treatment of animals in this country ever since I got here. I know no-one really cares that much and it's not our problem right? |
Have you ever looked in the mirror at the things you've used that were from animals or heavily tested on animals? Ever used a cosmetic product? Do not dare to suggest you've never used shampoo. Ate any meat product? Leather on your shoes?
Keep your own moralities at home because you happen to like cats until you can state them without being a complete hypocrite. |
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jaderedux
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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As much as this pains me I have to agree with Gord on this one.....Gord that hurt.....ouch.
Jade |
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Seoultrader
Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a kitty and love it to death but at the same time would not have any qualms about eating boiled/tortured cat if it had valid health advantages. |
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Chillin' Villain
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: Goo Row
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| All moral arguments aside, I'm pretty sure those things aren't for boiling ol' Morris.... They have those in (almost) every pharmacy, and that weird kamkiyak (cold medicine?) smell is always coming out of them.... I'm pretty sure (not positive, though) that those things are used to infuse a bunch of ginseng, mushrooms, antlers, and whatever else to make certain remedies for certain ailments... That's not to say that the disgusting cat practice didn't happen, but it's not so prevalent as to occur in your typical pharmacy... Really, I don't think many of them do that at all anymore. |
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buddy bradley
Joined: 24 Aug 2003
Location: The Beyond
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you Gord.
Yes Zyzyfer; I piss myself all day. Good observation. I commend you. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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This one is always a tough call. Seems we don't mind the inhumane killing of chickens....check one out sometimes.....or cattle. They are stunned (not killed) then their throats are slit while they are still alive. Shall we talk about veal, pate and killing cute little minks.
Where do ya draw the line. It's okay to boil a lobster but not a cat. I don't like either one but man it gets to be a tough call after awhile. I mean how about all those silk worm pupae boiled and eaten....is that cruel or is it okay to boil a worm before they are dead.........
I don't know the answer but before we all get our moral panties in a wad we should be sure we never hurt a living thing to eat or for enjoyment. i.e.; horse racing, fishing, hunting etc.
Jade |
Yes, there are various answers to all of these moral dilemmas. We can avoid eating meat and wearing fur. We can demand at least more humane treatment of animals- I bet the cruel way that animals are dispatched now has a lot to do with corporate manufacturing of meat. I don't think that a farmer that raises animals personally would abide the treatment they get in the slaughter houses. And, yes, the way dogs are dispatched here is an abomination that I cannot understand at all. Whether to eat a dog or a pig is culturally relative, whether to torture them on not is not.
I am usually a staunch defender of things Korean, and of cultural relativism, but the line is at creulty. Boiling worm larvae and boiling sentient creatures like cats are two different things. Torturing dogs to raise the adrenolin is inhumane.
If you extend the logic that killing worm larvae is the same as torturing dogs and eviscerating cows while they are alive, and both are okay, then by what logic do you exclude the torture and eating of humans? There are degrees, and there are (soft) lines. Some people go with the belief that having a central nervous system or not is the line (clams vs. dogs) some go with the difference between hunting meat and raising meat (hunted meat had a good lifetime in the wild, is dispatched relatively quickly, and humans are by nature carnivores and hunters.) Finds your line and stay with it, but don't say that there is no line- you may be dinner next in that line of reasoning. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| desultude wrote: |
| Yes, there are various answers to all of these moral dilemmas. We can avoid eating meat and wearing fur. We can demand at least more humane treatment of animals- I bet the cruel way that animals are dispatched now has a lot to do with corporate manufacturing of meat. I don't think that a farmer that raises animals personally would abide the treatment they get in the slaughter houses. And, yes, the way dogs are dispatched here is an abomination that I cannot understand at all. Whether to eat a dog or a pig is culturally relative, whether to torture them on not is not. |
Have you ever picked up a history book? Eating of live animals or roasting of live animals adorn the pages of western history. While you may not be a "savage", you come from a culture of "savages".
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| I am usually a staunch defender of things Korean, and of cultural relativism, but the line is at creulty. Boiling worm larvae and boiling sentient creatures like cats are two different things. Torturing dogs to raise the adrenolin is inhumane. |
So instead of boiling cats we boil lobsters. Instead of torturing dogs we torture calves. But we are equal in that we both let fish suffocate, so you convienently leave that part of the damnation.
Or medical research. I don't see you forgoing products that were tested on animals or directly benefitted from animal testing. Unless you have a good reason why we aren't savages for directly injecting products into the eyes of furry, lovable rabbits and blinding them.
You damn "Koreans" for being savages, yet your own history is far worse. At least they kill for food, your culture has killed so you could have a new shade of eye-liner. |
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