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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| This new law is supposed to take effect on December 1, right? I will be flying over to Japan for a visa run - probably next week. Should I have the criminal check done just in case? Also, what about the medical tests? Should I have them done before I go as well? Any advice would be appreciated. |
Have you considered visiting your local immigration office in person? |
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elliemk
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Sparkling Korea!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: |
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| Well, I was there last week with my now ex-director. He got my visa extended to a tourist visa. What would I do at immigration alone? |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| In Ontario, Canada you have to do it yourself. Actually you have to do it yourself two times. Once while you are getting your teaching certificate and once when you get a job. You also have to do it again if you change school boards (most teachers don't do this). From where I stand Korea is doing it like the developed world. |
Well, what about this. Korean Immigration is so concerned about fake diplomas and fake transcripts, then they should also be concerned about fake police reports. In that case what would they do? They would have a korean police department enter the required personal information into the criminal information data bank and seconds later have the very same information that I would have to go all the way back to the usa to get.
So, why not save us all these trips and do it here themselves? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| In Ontario, Canada you have to do it yourself. Actually you have to do it yourself two times. Once while you are getting your teaching certificate and once when you get a job. You also have to do it again if you change school boards (most teachers don't do this). From where I stand Korea is doing it like the developed world. |
The problem is that Ontario teachers LIVE in Ontario, so it's not a hassle. We do not live in Ontario (or our home countries) at all. Getting one police check will be hassle enough, but doing this for every job/visa, every year? That goes beyond hassle when the reporting agency is on the other side of the globe and will take 4 months to complete. |
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Typhoon
Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with that. Getting one check done in your home country should be enough. Every year is a little crazy, but it is better to be safe than sorry. We'll have to see what the regulations are once they are made official. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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They would have a korean police department enter the required personal information into the criminal information data bank and seconds later have the very same information that I would have to go all the way back to the usa to get.
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They can only access information about US citizens. The Korean police force cannot access information about people from Canada, UK, Australia etc which have much more stringent privacy laws. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Implementing these new standards is in the best interests of students, parents, administrators and teachers. |
I agree, i think its Ok to try and ensure teachers are not criminals etc.
However- the suddenness of this legislation will put many teachers in a real bind because it can take months to get this silly piece of paper.
I have never committed a crime in my life but it appears I can't get a police clearance because I have not lived in my home country for the past 10 years. What am I supposed to do?? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| Typhoon wrote: |
| Implementing these new standards is in the best interests of students, parents, administrators and teachers. |
I agree, i think its Ok to try and ensure teachers are not criminals etc.
However- the suddenness of this legislation will put many teachers in a real bind because it can take months to get this silly piece of paper.
I have never committed a crime in my life but it appears I can't get a police clearance because I have not lived in my home country for the past 10 years. What am I supposed to do?? |
In that case I reckon they would take one from the Korean police. |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I have a friend and student who is the chief of police for my area. I asked him about this today. He told me what I figured he would say. FBI,interpol, korean police are all linked by computer. If a Korean school or immigration wants this info., they can ask any police station here in Korea and get it in seconds. |
important info. wish they'd use it. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
They would have a korean police department enter the required personal information into the criminal information data bank and seconds later have the very same information that I would have to go all the way back to the usa to get.
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They can only access information about US citizens. The Korean police force cannot access information about people from Canada, UK, Australia etc which have much more stringent privacy laws. |
The solution, then, is obvious: hire only Americans. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
They would have a korean police department enter the required personal information into the criminal information data bank and seconds later have the very same information that I would have to go all the way back to the usa to get.
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They can only access information about US citizens. The Korean police force cannot access information about people from Canada, UK, Australia etc which have much more stringent privacy laws. |
The solution, then, is obvious: hire only Americans. |
Except there aren't enough Americans here to meet demand. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that there are more Canadian teachers than any other nationality. Just replacing those alone would be too much of a headache. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Conservative wrote: |
| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
They would have a korean police department enter the required personal information into the criminal information data bank and seconds later have the very same information that I would have to go all the way back to the usa to get.
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They can only access information about US citizens. The Korean police force cannot access information about people from Canada, UK, Australia etc which have much more stringent privacy laws. |
The solution, then, is obvious: hire only Americans. |
Except there aren't enough Americans here to meet demand. |
Where is the sarcasm smiley dammit! |
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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, I was there last week with my now ex-director. He got my visa extended to a tourist visa. What would I do at immigration alone? |
You asked about criminal checks and medical checks in a previous post before you get your E2 Visa. I said, "Have you considered visiting your local immigration office in person?" And what would I do at immigration alone?  You should, in case you haven't figured out, ask them specific questions about criminal checks and medical checks. There's no forum member that can give you an answer. Well, maybe there's one. It takes a little effort, if any, to go down to your local immigration office. There are to many people asking about medical checks and criminal checks. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="The_Conservative] Just replacing those alone would be too much of a headache.[/quote]
Not a headache for the folks who are making the laws, just for the employers trying to fill positions. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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All of the Korean English Professors in my university are very kind and friendly. At one time or another I saw them all today. None even said hi.
They seemed to be like zombies. I am sure that it is because they all know about this situation and are very shocked and concerned. But, this could be a good sign. If the korean universitys try and fight this, then, maybe things will go back to "normal." Even one of my students today had heard about this. He said that he heard that all of the foreign teachers in Korea are going to leave and never return. |
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