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In the Korean news: Crackdown on illegal aliens
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:48 am    Post subject: In the Korean news: Crackdown on illegal aliens Reply with quote

Apparently there has been a big crackdown on the illegals living here from other countries. My korean friends were talking about it, and one of them who lives in Itaewon said that they have seen tons of africans stopped, checked, and taken away in the past week.

That's all I know. Anyone hear anything else or see the actual news story?
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. I haven't heard of this.. but just curious.. do people carry around ID with them just in case to confirm they are legal?

I've never had anyone ask me if I was legal before.. and just wondering if others have..
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never been asked before if I'm legal, nor ever been stopped by any agent of the state for any reason in Korea. Regardless, I think it's always good policy to carry your waygook card with you wherever you go as ID. You'll need it, or your passport, anytime you need to cash a supyo or make a bank transaction, or if you ever get hit by a car or get into another accident it's good to have ID so that you can be identified and your friends/family/employer can be contacted.

A friend of mine was recently hassled by MPs because he looked like an AWOL GI. Showing his alien card kept him from getting hauled off by the MPs.
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Marathe



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Spider Hole

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that in like 2 weeks anyone who's caught and found to be in the country illegally is getting a three year bit slapped on them.

a teacher in knew in ulsan had to leave the country cuz his russian girlfriend was in korea illegally and had to leave before the deadline or face jail.

ludakris.
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back in the IMF days I got ID'd by a cop in my local little dong. Cop said some neighbors ratted out that foreigners lived in the same building, and he was just checking to see if I was legal. Also wanted to know where other "foreigners" lived.

I told him that the "GU" office should have us all registered and if he had problems call my hawgwon.

Back in those days Koreans probably blamed every white face for their crappy accounting practices. Hence they call it the IMF era instead of the "Chaebol screwed up Era".

I always carry my alien ID card with me, as you never know, and I usually need it when opening new video store accounts or signing up for something on the the spur of the moment.

There are SO many illegals in this country, even if they do a 'sweep" and boot out a few thousand it won't dent the # of illegals. I read a stat from about 10 years ago there were 240,000 foreigners in Korea, of that 60-70% were illegal workers doing 3D jobs.
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Derrek



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been asked maybe 3 times by GI's and once by Korean cops, because I look like military and live in Itaewon (so am here a lot and out at night). An E-2 card is all you need to show. In all instances, it was because it was after curfew time, and they were checking for that.
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OiGirl



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You were asked only because you are Derrek.
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komtengi



Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derrek wrote:
I've been asked maybe 3 times by GI's and once by Korean cops.


It was my understanding that the MP's cannot legally ask you to show them id. Thats why they have to go on patrol with the Korean cops.
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kimcheeking
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are required by Korean law to have either your passport or your ARC on you at all times.
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Medic



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was an article in the paper recently about how understaffed the immigration department is. Seems that those who get caught are the really unlucky ones.
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kimcheeking wrote:
You are required by Korean law to have either your passport or your ARC on you at all times.



I'd have to say that it's common sense to carry it, too - and if you get in trouble for not having it on you out on the street - you probably deserve it.

Unless you are naked - I can't see how or why someone wouldn't have it on them. It's small, flexable and not much of a problem.


Joe
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Thanks wrote:


I'd have to say that it's common sense to carry it, too ...
Unless you are naked - I can't see how or why someone wouldn't have it on them.
Joe


Actually, even naked has no excuse, as there are cracks for wedging....

Shoosh,

Ryst
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In regards to the OP.
The reason for this is that for the 3d workers it was found that most of them were illegal so they decided to give them a grace period. If they came out and declared themselves they are given a 2 or 3 year work visa but have to leave after this. Apparantly(according to arirang -- yeah right) about 75% have come foward and are now legal. So the remainder are apparently going to be hunted down by the government and deported and not allowed back in. While this is a good idea as small and medium business can continue to pay very low wages (and mostly treat their employees like crap) you know it is just a publicity stunt to make the government look better. if these people got in under cover before they will do it agian.
Anyway, good luck to the 3D's, they have it 10 times harder than us.
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Seoultrader



Joined: 18 Jun 2003
Location: Ali's Insurgent Inn, Fallujah

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

komtengi wrote:
Derrek wrote:
I've been asked maybe 3 times by GI's and once by Korean cops.


It was my understanding that the MP's cannot legally ask you to show them id. Thats why they have to go on patrol with the Korean cops.


Correct. KNP has primary jurisdiction anywhere. HOWEVER, in areas that have MP town patrols, an MP may detain you for not cooperating (and trying to leave) when asked to produce your ID UNTIL KNP arrives. Rare, but it's happened to a few non-military expats. As far as I know the MPs are generally instructed to give the person the benefit of the doubt unless they have sufficient reason to belive that the individual is in fact military and breaking curfew.

So you basically have 2 choices:

When asked for ID by an MP who is not accompanied by a KNP, you can be a smartass and say, "Actually, Sergeant Loser, I'll wait till a KNP comes. In the meantime, won't you join me at the table and participate in our ongoing discussion about (insert superacademic topic GIboy won't have a clue about)?" They'll either leave red-faced or radio for a KNP. Alternatively, if you're hard up for $$$, you can provoke them to the point where they just lose it and Rodney King your ass and you get a nice compensation cheque from USFK.

OR

if on the street, you can tell him to bugger off (or just ignore) and see if he tries to detain ya.

Personally, I tend to be a good boy and cooperate because they're generally quite polite and stuck in an ungrateful job (no one likes MPs).
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hmm.. I haven't heard of this.. but just curious.. do people carry around ID with them just in case to confirm they are legal?

I've never had anyone ask me if I was legal before.. and just wondering if others have..

I've been asked twice - both times in 1997. Hasn't happened recently, but I don't leave the compound here often.
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