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Men are having a hard time getting jobs, right now
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:46 pm    Post subject: Men are having a hard time getting jobs, right now Reply with quote

A couple recruiter frinds of mine told me that since the Chris Neil case hit the news, almost every hogwan wants only female teachers. Anyone else hear this?
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and then one day a woman teacher is filmed drunk in public on national news, and suddenly hogwons prefer robots.

Isn't it so insane??? Laughing
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i find it hilarious how on the job boards, when they look for private lessons, it's always a businessman or a lawyer looking for a "north american female only" to teach him one on one.

are they looking for a teacher or just an english-speaking hostess? i wonder how disappointed they are when the "north american female" ends up being overweight or hit with the ugly stick.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard anything like that, but it wouldn't suprise me. Then again, I'm not looking for a job right now.

Like someone else said awhile back, some schools or recruiters try to look mainly for young blonde hair blue eye female teachers. It goes to show how sexist they (the schools and/or recruiters) are.
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Emma Mack



Joined: 10 Jul 2007
Location: Chungcheongnam-do

PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, they should flip that buddish temple symbol on its side and that could be the national symbol for hogwons.


Kids this is Tintin teacher.........
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Pak Yu Man



Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares what hogwons want. lol@hogwons.
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ldh2222



Joined: 12 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Re: Men are having a hard time getting jobs, right now Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
A couple recruiter frinds of mine told me that since the Chris Neil case hit the news, almost every hogwan wants only female teachers. Anyone else hear this?


Sounds about right. Way too many male teachers in comparison to female teachers here anyway.
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jinju



Joined: 22 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

why would anyone want to work for hagwons anyway?
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see how beggars can be choosers. Especially with an already massive shortfall likely to be made even worse by new visa regulations.
At this rate they are going to have a hard time filling any positions at all.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who trusts recruiters to help them find jobs anyway?

Everyone who reads this board know or ought to know that the best way to find a job in Korea is from contacting the school itself....

And I think that alot of schools are going to find it easy at first to find female teachers, until a few cases of rape happen....

There have been reports where female teachers have been stalked, followed home and then assaulted by male Korean assailants....

true, it might be a safe bet for an institute to hire a female teacher, but what is to prevent the kind of sexual harassment or assault on the female teacher once she takes the job?

In recent years, Korea has been the place where even Korean women are targets of rape and murder, such as perverts who fix their cars to look like taxis and pick up unsuspecting victims who get robbed and in some instances killed.

There was a serial murderer in the Shinchon area (near hongdae) who killed about 20 or so prostitutes and women who were unlucky to have been walking at night.

Where is the safety for them?
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the US, male elementary school teachers have become a rarity, and it seems that Corea may be following suit. While the dynamics are a bit different (in the US, men are terrified of being tainted by an accusation of abuse while in Corea, employers are shying away from hiring them) the root cause is the same: the child sex abuse witchhunt. Until that is dealt with, I do not see much improvement.
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jackson7



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Location: Kim Jong Il's Future Fireball

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would anyone want to work for a hagwon? Hmmm..I'll be re-signing AGAIN with my current hagwon.

I get paid quite a good salary here from them (2.5 for 22 forty-minute classes a week). I get extra pay for chuseok, christmas, and sollnal, as well as for "intensives" which don't really add a single extra class but just shift my working hours from 3-10 to 10:30-5:30. I have time in the mornings (except during "intensives") to teach my rather large group of privates, which lets me take home more than 4 mil. total a month. (I know this isn't a HUGE paycheck compared to some others, but it's not bad compared to what I'd be making teaching in the States).

All this, and I don't have to prepare for classes except for making copies of the pre-prepared daily quiz I give my students for the reading we do. The curriculum we teach offers a mindless (as in, I don't have to prepare anything supplementary if I choose not to, and the class will still flow smoothly) work environment, allowing me to enjoy my classes with my students while still giving me some freedom to actually teach grammar points and language pieces I feel need extra attention.

I also have a great relationship with my direct supervisors, our director, and my korean and foreign co-teachers alike.

Yeah, teaching at a hagwon sucks. Wait, no, find a good one. I got lucky.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Men are having a hard time getting jobs, right now Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
A couple recruiter frinds of mine told me that since the Chris Neil case hit the news, almost every hogwan wants only female teachers. Anyone else hear this?


Take anything a recruiter says as you would "the check is in the mail" or "I won't c#m in your mouth". The lies I have been spun over the years beggar belief and usually they are just an ill-thought ruse to get you to take a job that a, nobody wants or b, they cannot fill.
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Billy Pilgrim



Joined: 08 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
In the US, male elementary school teachers have become a rarity, and it seems that Corea may be following suit. While the dynamics are a bit different (in the US, men are terrified of being tainted by an accusation of abuse while in Corea, employers are shying away from hiring them) the root cause is the same: the child sex abuse witchhunt. Until that is dealt with, I do not see much improvement.


Yeah, it's pretty pathetic actually. I remember reading a couple of years back that there were about 2,500 kindergarten teachers in New Zealand...and TWO of them were male. No male wants to touch the profession because society has become so shrill and paranoid that the moment you tell anyone you teach pre-school kids, they will assume you do it because you like interacting with young children and are thus a pedophile, totally ignoring the gigantic leap in logic required. Even if I didn't absolutely hate teaching young children (hell's minions, is what they are), I wouldn't go anywhere near a primary or kindergarten job in my home country just because of the prejudice that accompanies it.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About 6 months ago I saw a figure - don't remember where and have no clue if it's accurate - that only 1 in every 11 Western teachers here are female. If that's true, or even close to true, the guys don't have anything to worry about...not if the schools want teachers.
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