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JeannieAbroad



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: How do you deal with the stares? Reply with quote

Okay, I am NOT starting a bitch-fest here. Just want some pointers.....

That being said, I'm trying to find a way to adjust to all the constant stares on the street and on the subway. I listen to my ipod, read, look out the window, but I can feel the eyes on me. When I look up there is usually someone looking away quickly.

I should point out that I am half Korean, which is doubly funny. My friends back home think I look Asian, but here, well, I had to show my Korean co-teachers my parents wedding photo to prove I was half Caucasian and Asian. I guess I'm not considered gypopo here, just American (which is fine with me)

Is this a Korean/Asian thing? I mean, there are a ton of foreigners in Seoul, why should I be so mesmerizing? Do I engage them in conversation with my remedial Korean or start talking English? What?
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rarely notice them anymore. I know it happens, especially in rural areas, but a lot of times I think people who complain so much about the stares have some paranoia issues.

Ok, so someone is looking at you. Things to consider:

1) If you know they're looking at you, you must be looking at them. Why are you staring at them?

2) Even if they are looking at you, it's a bit of a leap in logic to think that there's something negative behind that, or that they're staring at you b/c you look different, or something like that. People look at people...all of the time.

Again, I'm not denying that sometimes, some people stare. I've faced more than my fair share of steely eyed ajummas and gaggles of giggling children following me around the home plus shouting 'waygookin.' But my message to the stare-obsessed: get over yourselves. Believe it or not, you're not the most interesting thing most of these people have seen in their lives.
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JeannieAbroad



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

waynehead wrote:

Again, I'm not denying that sometimes, some people stare. I've faced more than my fair share of steely eyed ajummas and gaggles of giggling children following me around the home plus shouting 'waygookin.' But my message to the stare-obsessed: get over yourselves. Believe it or not, you're not the most interesting thing most of these people have seen in their lives.


Not saying that I'm stare-obsessed. I just arrived here and its something that I've noticed. I'm also wondering if the fact that I'm a mixed-blood person is the real source of the sometimes "hostile" stares and whisperings. My mom (she's Korean) always said Koreans were racist and they automatically look down on half-breed children. People assume that if you're mixed your mother was a prostitute and your father was a G.I. Not true in my case, but it would explain the looks on the subway.
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Matt_22



Joined: 22 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you notice someone staring at you, just lock eyes with them and stare back. that'll usually always stop them, for the time being at least.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You really will stop noticing it pretty soon. You're new, so just let it slide off yr back.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the stares will ever calm down in korea.

No matter how much exposure to foreigners they have, the xenophobia will remain and that is what prompts the staring.

Other countries have had less exposure to foreigners but stare less.Because they're not culurally programmed to feel threatened by difference.

Its one of the few things here that you never really learn to cope with properly. The rest of the BS you find ways to deal with.
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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt_22 wrote:
if you notice someone staring at you, just lock eyes with them and stare back. that'll usually always stop them, for the time being at least.


I do this and c.ock my head for effect. I then continue to stare and focus on their odd nose, strange and hairy mole, etc long after they turn away. Makes them antsy and always works like a charm.
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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:41 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you deal with the stares? Reply with quote

JeannieAbroad wrote:
Do I engage them in conversation with my remedial Korean or start talking English? What?


No, definitely don't engage anyone in conversation - in either language. If you haven't noticed already, even amongst Korean people, one does not engage strangers in conversation no matter how close you may be sitting next to them on the subway.

Koreans view relationships in terms of degrees of separation...unless you are a family member, co-worker or friend...you just don't engage people in conversation, otherwise people will think you're weird or that you want something from them. There are exceptions of course, but this is the general rule. So, how does one make new friends in Korea? From what I've seen, through introductions. "So and so, meet so and so..."

As for the staring part, best to just get used to it and learn to ignore it. My guess is they're staring cuz they think that you are of mixed blood and are curious. Most of them probably don't realize that they're being rude.
I'm a full-blooded ethnic Korean so people usually don't stare at me...but if I'm on the phone and I start speaking English, man, you'd think I had just yelled that there's a bomb on board. ALL EYES on me. I actually find moments like this amusing...I feel like a spy whose cover has just been blown. Cool When I speak Korean, no one stares.


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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, stare back at them. I had a little boy stare at me the other day as I was walking back home from work. I just stared back at him, then as I turned the corner I said hello and good bye and kept walking.

As to whether or not you are looked down at because you are mixed, some Koreans will and some won't. It just depends on the person.
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write of weigh



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Mars

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i was in Seoul i was surprised at the lack of stares i recieved. just wait until you travel outside of Seoul, that's when the real staring begins.

Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you deal with the stares? Reply with quote

JeannieAbroad wrote:
Do I engage them in conversation with my remedial Korean or start talking English? What?
I wouldn't talk to people who are staring like that. But what do you do? I depends on each situation: how far away are they, their age, the type of staring etc. I generally don't have any problems with people who just look at me. Let them look. Hey, I look at people too. Who doesn't. After you've traveled a fair bit, you hardly notice it anyway. But if someone is standing right next to me and they keep staring for quite a while, I think it's time to start sneezing/coughing VERY loud right in their direction. That tends to work pretty well. Very Happy

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JeannieAbroad



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: How do you deal with the stares? Reply with quote

Freakstar wrote:
JeannieAbroad wrote:
Do I engage them in conversation with my remedial Korean or start talking English? What?




I'm a full-blooded ethnic Korean so people usually don't stare at me...but if I'm on the phone and I start speaking English, man, you'd think I had just yelled that there's a bomb on board. ALL EYES on me. I actually find moments like this amusing...I feel like a spy whose cover has just been blown. Cool When I speak Korean, no one stares.


That's awesome! Too funny. Just wait til I learn Korean! I wonder what the looks will be like then!
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found the best way to deal with stares is to just blow kisses.
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JeannieAbroad



Joined: 27 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
I found the best way to deal with stares is to just blow kisses.


Laughing I'm gonna try that next time! Should go over well with the older Korean women!
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much you can do. I've been in Korea a long time, in Seoul for a lot of that, location doesn't matter so much, with certain exceptions. You will get attention, some days more than others. Some days maybe you will notice it more. Sometimes I dislike being gawked it. Oh so maybe it's the weekend and I need a shave or something. Then I kind of just avoid looking at people. I'm not sure what the deal is, but it's something that never disappears. Kids meet foreign adults in schools, but I suppose to most Koreans, foreigners are just not part of their lives beyond anything superficial. Can you imagine never befriending or having a proper conversation with anyone from another country, ever? To us that is an alien concept. To many people that is the norm.
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