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bucheon bum
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 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:41 am Post subject: Musharraf Declares a State of Emergency |
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Ah Pervez Musharraf. The dude just doesn't want to leave office. The ego of people is quite stunning sometimes...
Ny times article
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The Pakistani leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, declared a state of emergency tonight, suspending the country�s constitution, blacking out all independent television news reports and filling the streets of the capital with police officers and soldiers,
The police blocked off the administrative center in the capital city of Islamabad today.
The move appeared to be an effort by General Musharraf to reassert his fading power in the face of growing opposition from the country�s Supreme Court, civilian political parties and hard-line Islamists. Pakistan�s Supreme Court was expected to rule within days on the legality of General Musharraf�s re-election last month as the country�s president, which opposition groups have said was improper. |
His reasoning?
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The order states that attacks by militants have risen to �an unprecedented level of violent intensity� and now �pose a grave threat� to the people of Pakistan. And then accuses the Supreme Court of hampering effort to fight terrorism.
The order accuses �some members of the judiciary� of �working at cross purposes� with the government by releasing some detained militants. It goes on to accuse the Supreme Court of �overstepping the limits of judicial authority� in a variety of areas, including economic policy. |
Attacks by militants hasn't grown recently. Same as it has been the past couple years. It is just a blatant attempt by Musharraf to continue his dictatorship. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Musharraf Declares a State of Emergency |
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| bucheon bum wrote: |
Ah Pervez Musharraf. The dude just doesn't want to leave office. The ego of people is quite stunning sometimes...
Ny times article
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The Pakistani leader, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, declared a state of emergency tonight, suspending the country�s constitution, blacking out all independent television news reports and filling the streets of the capital with police officers and soldiers,
The police blocked off the administrative center in the capital city of Islamabad today.
The move appeared to be an effort by General Musharraf to reassert his fading power in the face of growing opposition from the country�s Supreme Court, civilian political parties and hard-line Islamists. Pakistan�s Supreme Court was expected to rule within days on the legality of General Musharraf�s re-election last month as the country�s president, which opposition groups have said was improper. |
His reasoning?
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The order states that attacks by militants have risen to �an unprecedented level of violent intensity� and now �pose a grave threat� to the people of Pakistan. And then accuses the Supreme Court of hampering effort to fight terrorism.
The order accuses �some members of the judiciary� of �working at cross purposes� with the government by releasing some detained militants. It goes on to accuse the Supreme Court of �overstepping the limits of judicial authority� in a variety of areas, including economic policy. |
Attacks by militants hasn't grown recently. Same as it has been the past couple years. It is just a blatant attempt by Musharraf to continue his dictatorship. |
hahaha...wouldn't suprise me if the same thing happens next year.....but in a different country...on the other side of the world. |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:54 am Post subject: |
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gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side.  |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:21 am Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
are you in the top 2% of the elite?
i'm not.
guess i am left out of that one |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
are you in the top 2% of the elite?
i'm not.
guess i am left out of that one |
I don't understand.
Me neither.
Maybe next year. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
are you in the top 2% of the elite?
i'm not.
guess i am left out of that one |
I don't understand.
Me neither.
Maybe next year. |
I think the point was that you said Musharraf was on "our side", but Loose Ends thinks that he is only on the side of the rich and powerful. |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| loose_ends wrote: |
are you in the top 2% of the elite?
i'm not.
guess i am left out of that one |
I don't understand.
Me neither.
Maybe next year. |
I think the point was that you said Musharraf was on "our side", but Loose Ends thinks that he is only on the side of the rich and powerful. |
Oh, I meant our side as in the side of "good", you know if you're not with us, you're with the terrorists sort of thing. Thanks for clarifying. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:15 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
And the US murdered a senior citizen and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, that is the truth. Maybe murder is good? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| thiophene wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
And the US murdered a senior citizen and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, that is the truth. Maybe murder is good? |
The US invasion of Iraq also saved lives . Had Saddam been allowed to go free he would have killed off the Kurds and invaded Kuwait again.
It is not possible to deligitimatize the taking down Saddam. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
And the US murdered a senior citizen and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, that is the truth. Maybe murder is good? |
The US invasion of Iraq also saved lives . Had Saddam been allowed to go free he would have killed off the Kurds and invaded Kuwait again.
It is not possible to deligitimatize the taking down Saddam. |
if you make the assumption that the bush administration actually gives a *beep* about the average iraq citizen.
i have my doubts.... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
And the US murdered a senior citizen and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, that is the truth. Maybe murder is good? |
The US invasion of Iraq also saved lives . Had Saddam been allowed to go free he would have killed off the Kurds and invaded Kuwait again.
It is not possible to deligitimatize the taking down Saddam. |
if you make the assumption that the bush administration actually gives a *beep* about the average iraq citizen.
i have my doubts.... |
Well if Saddam wasn't such a killer the US wouldn' t have been so concerned about him being powerful.
Anyway I got a deal you people stop objecting to the war on humanitarian grounds and I won't defend the war on humanitarina groups.
Deal.
anyone who objects to the war on humanitarian grounds is either disingeous or ignorant. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:14 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
Joo, who cares? Iraq and Pakistan are unrelated.
Musharraf is hurting the political development of his country. If he had his country's interests as priority #1, he wouldn't be pulling this BS. Basically he is becoming like any other dictator out there. |
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thiophene
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| thiophene wrote: |
| gee, thank Jebeus he's on our side. |
He is a lot softer than the enemies of the US.
Oppostion leaders aren't killed in Pakistan
There are anti govt demostrations.
Now what happened if someone spoke out against Saddam Hussein?
they would be killed not only them but their family and not only would the family be killed but any female members of the family would be raped before killed.
that is the truth. |
And the US murdered a senior citizen and hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's, that is the truth. Maybe murder is good? |
The US invasion of Iraq also saved lives . Had Saddam been allowed to go free he would have killed off the Kurds and invaded Kuwait again.
It is not possible to deligitimatize the taking down Saddam. |
Pre-war, with Saddam, at least you knew how to stay safe, post-Saddam, no one is safe. NO ONE! |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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Surprise surprise, Musharraf is detaining his opponents now:
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Police rounded up hundreds of opposition leaders and rights activists Sunday after Pakistan's military ruler suspended the constitution, ousted the top judge and deployed troops to fight what he called rising Islamic extremism.
Increasingly concerned by the unfolding crisis, the Bush administration said Sunday that American aid to Pakistan would be reviewed. The U.S. has provided about $11 billion to Pakistan since 2001, when Pakistan's president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, allied with the United States after the Sept. 11 attacks.
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Time to cut that aid. |
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