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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Is this a forum with zero moderation? |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
I don't know....
Maybe 20 different threads about the same thing? Maybe people purposefully trying to derail topics? Maybe people breaking the swear filter? Maybe people posting pages of recipes just to ruin a thread because they dislike the OP?
Things like that. |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
When was the last time anyone heard or saw a mod? (Of course, I realize this thread will bring them out of the woodwork.)
Maybe this forum could use a little moderation. |
what should be moderated? |
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| Pligganease wrote: |
When was the last time anyone heard or saw a mod? (Of course, I realize this thread will bring them out of the woodwork.)
Maybe this forum could use a little moderation. |
Be careful what you wish for. |
AGREED. Generally its better to have less moderation (unless its obviously needed).
But just to combine a thread for the sake of combining a thread is pointless and a lot of work. Plus the posters get thrown off on something like politics, where nuisances vary quite a bit with a new thread.
However, Joo Rip constantly posting on everything about the 'caliphate'.. like he's on auto-post half of the time without even being aware he's on a new thread, does get old very quickly. Still though, for a MOD to have to follow around all his posts would be excessive I'd think. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:42 am Post subject: Re: Is this a forum with zero moderation? |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| AGREED. Generally its better to have less moderation (unless its obviously needed). |
I agree that it is better to have less moderation. No moderation, however, is not good.
| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| But just to combine a thread for the sake of combining a thread is pointless and a lot of work. Plus the posters get thrown off on something like politics, where nuisances vary quite a bit with a new thread. |
Why not a simple, "Keep it on the other thread." Then, lock the thread. Twenty seconds, tops.
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| However, Joo Rip constantly posting on everything about the 'caliphate'.. like he's on auto-post half of the time without even being aware he's on a new thread, does get old very quickly. Still though, for a MOD to have to follow around all his posts would be excessive I'd think. |
I'm not suggesting the mods follow single posters. I'm simply suggesting that, once a day, a mod come through and look at the forum. I don't think it's that much to ask. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Is this a forum with zero moderation? |
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Tiger Beer"][
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| However, Joo Rip constantly posting on everything about the 'caliphate'.. like he's on auto-post half of the time without even being aware he's on a new thread, does get old very quickly. Still though, for a MOD to have to follow around all his posts would be excessive I'd think.[ |
i will post what you and the others can't handle.
by the way do you see a single caliphate thread on this page or on page 2 or three.
It is just you getting mad about something you can't handle. which is a good thing.
Be sure you will see more Caliphate threads in the future.
As I said talking about the Caliphate makes the anti war (by the US) people lose it. They are pretty smug but mention the calphate and that all changes.
So it is most definetly a topic to visit again. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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The problem with joo is, he doesn't have any clue how left field his posts are. He thinks everything is tied to the caliphate and/or its defeat. He also has no idea he is posting nonsensically. And lately, he's become nasty about it all, too. Altogether, not a very useful poster anymore. He used to have my respect for his sincerity if nothing else. Now, I just see him as an illogical nut.
More on-topic, there are six mods, yet they seem to monitor this place about as well as 1/2 a monitor. I would give them the benefit of the doubt as far as being hands off, but you can tell by: their responses they sometimes have not read through threads they *do* try to police , the long time for responses, the total lack of any responses to obvious situations needing attention that they just don't spend much time here.
It's not an issue worth raising, in the end. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Is this a forum with zero moderation? |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| As I said talking about the Caliphate makes the anti war (by the US) people lose it. They are pretty smug but mention the calphate and that all changes. |
It's called laughter. I thought you'd recognize it by now.
Anyway: The mods don't care to moderate because this forum is here to keep the dogmatists busy with each other so the rest of the users can enjoy themselves. |
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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| EASY solution: round up the truthers and shoot them. |
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TML1976
Joined: 10 Jul 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Less moderation is good. people are here to voice their views and they have every right. Moderation should only occur when something is way out of line.
I consider racist and sexist out of line.
What do you guys consider out of line? |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| See the problem? Some people don't understand the concept of a "thread." Those people are ruining the forum. It's immaturity at it's finest, and I guess the "moderators" |
I'll just start with this joke! Anyone else writing this and I'd have taken notice. Maybe you and Jinju have a lot in common. 9/10 of your posts are immaturity personified. And this post is complaining about something you do yourself. Pot and Kettle here.
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| I miss those days. |
I remember when Ice cream tasted good and swapping football stickers was fun. It's called moving on.
Anyway on topic. There are the multiple thread culprits. They know who they are. I just make a point of not posting on them. The evolutionary thread is an excellent example for keeping one thread for a topic and it's one of the longest on the forum. Keeping the 9/11 threads down to one really wouldn't be that hard.
Of the Mods I only really see Kanuckistan making the effort to engage people and look active. And accept the point it wouldn't take long for them to go through and delete duplicated threads. If people knew that if they duplicated they would get deleted, then they'd start to post on the original threads, and after a short time would only post on the original. Seeming as the majority of what is written is so original. 
Or maybe this is being a little optimistic.
Joo is the perfect example of a hand maiden for his government, if we get hammered with that crap every day for the whole of our lives then we might finally believe it and nod our heads accordingly. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| A bit of duplication is fine. Sometimes threads get derailed, and it's best to start again. Sometimes the OP isn't 'sexy' enough and it doesn't take off, and abandoning it and taking a new approach creates a thread that blooms. Threads that grow too big are a pain in the arse. Who wants to spend their time reading a thread that is 20 pages long? Best when those threads die and we start again. And what's wrong with a thread that is devoted to a certain aspect of a topic? I don't see anything wrong with a few threads devoted to different aspects of a particular topic. Recently, one particular topic has dominated the forum, and that's not ideal, but it's up to us to discuss other things, and ignore those topics that no longer of interest. Perhaps a few have gone over the top with their obsession with 911 lately, but I'd rather that happened occasionally than we had a mod (like the one we had in late 2006) who nannied us and nagged us and told us what we should and shouldn't talk about. When that mod disappeared, a lot of us sighed a great big sigh of relief. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Dome Vans wrote: |
Pikanese wrote:
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| See the problem? Some people don't understand the concept of a "thread." Those people are ruining the forum. It's immaturity at it's finest, and I guess the "moderators" |
I'll just start with this joke! Anyone else writing this and I'd have taken notice. Maybe you and Jinju have a lot in common. 9/10 of your posts are immaturity personified. And this post is complaining about something you do yourself. Pot and Kettle here.
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| I miss those days. |
I remember when Ice cream tasted good and swapping football stickers was fun. It's called moving on.
Anyway on topic. There are the multiple thread culprits. They know who they are. I just make a point of not posting on them. The evolutionary thread is an excellent example for keeping one thread for a topic and it's one of the longest on the forum. Keeping the 9/11 threads down to one really wouldn't be that hard.
Of the Mods I only really see Kanuckistan making the effort to engage people and look active. And accept the point it wouldn't take long for them to go through and delete duplicated threads. If people knew that if they duplicated they would get deleted, then they'd start to post on the original threads, and after a short time would only post on the original. Seeming as the majority of what is written is so original.
Or maybe this is being a little optimistic.
Joo is the perfect example of a hand maiden for his government, if we get hammered with that crap every day for the whole of our lives then we might finally believe it and nod our heads accordingly. |
Noob, stay out of topics you don't understand. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Turds are not allowed to talk about themselves in da tird person. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, they're around, believe me. Seems I'm the kiss of death or something. Three threads I've started in the last week and two that I've commented on have been deleted. For what reasons? Nobody knows, but it's been done. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="keane"]
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| The problem with joo is, he doesn't have any clue how left field his posts are. He thinks everything is tied to the caliphate and/or its defeat. He also has no idea he is posting nonsensically. And lately, he's become nasty about it all, too. Altogether, not a very useful poster anymore. He used to have my respect for his sincerity if nothing else. Now, I just see him as an illogical nut. |
Are you EFL or Keene. Or both
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Bramble
Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: National treasures need homes
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Big_Bird wrote: |
| A bit of duplication is fine. Sometimes threads get derailed, and it's best to start again. Sometimes the OP isn't 'sexy' enough and it doesn't take off, and abandoning it and taking a new approach creates a thread that blooms. Threads that grow too big are a pain in the arse. Who wants to spend their time reading a thread that is 20 pages long? Best when those threads die and we start again. And what's wrong with a thread that is devoted to a certain aspect of a topic? I don't see anything wrong with a few threads devoted to different aspects of a particular topic. Recently, one particular topic has dominated the forum, and that's not ideal, but it's up to us to discuss other things, and ignore those topics that no longer of interest. Perhaps a few have gone over the top with their obsession with 911 lately, but I'd rather that happened occasionally than we had a mod (like the one we had in late 2006) who nannied us and nagged us and told us what we should and shouldn't talk about. When that mod disappeared, a lot of us sighed a great big sigh of relief. |
Those are good points, Big_Bird. I never go to that mammoth "evolution" thread anymore because I can't be bothered reading all 600 pages of it (or however many there are now). I haven't followed the "truther" discussions, but if people want to talk about 9/11 conspiracy theories I don't see a problem.
I do see a big problem when threads get personal; when people decide they don't like a certain poster and attack the person instead of addressing the points he or she has made; when they make asinine statements just to provoke a response; when they waste everyone's time bringing up the same lame arguments again and again; and when people feel free to be insulting, intentionally derail valuable threads (like the one about the dogs in Daejeon), post offensive PMs, and harass and bully people. The mods haven't addressed any of this, and NC was no exception.
They also haven't addressed the unbelievable amount of racism, homophobia and misogyny that makes its way into so many of the discussions here. When posters blatantly disregard any concern for factual accuracy, why don't the mods ever call them on it? And what ever happened to the TOS, which supposedly prohibit vulgarity?
All I can say to in response to the OP's question is:
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