Korean Job Discussion Forums

[lastat06513]

I don't know how long this thread will remain since the content is controversial, but here it goes....


I think the best way to work, no matter whether a person has a degree or not would be to come and work on a tourist visa....There, I said it.
I am saying this because getting a work visa is becoming too much of a hassle and there is too much red tape involved and your work schedule evolves around when Koreans want you to work.

I would have to agree that most foreigners went to Korea to get away from the demands placed on people in their homecountries, why do people go through the hassles of getting a work visa, then having to verify the qualification so frequently and then have to possibly go home at the end of your contract so you can get an interview in a consular office so you can come back?
Do you think Koreans who are illegally living and working in your homecountries are doing the same things you have to do to work and live there? No. For instance, there are close to 200,000 Koreans living and working illegally in the US alone (not to mention the countless others residing in Canada waiting for their chance to cross the border)

A tit-for-tat, I say.

I think it is time foreigners take what is theirs; their money and their time.

I know most people here won't agree with me, but I know a few people would and I know most of the old-timers have at one time or another had worked ona tourist visa

I want to ask you this;

- Do you want to control what time you work?
- Do you want to control when you go on vacation?
- Do you want to control how much money you make?

If you do, you know the answer.

[IlIlNine]

Logically, the 'trouble' up 'till now has been caused by people who are in-country. What they have done is kept new talent from coming in - thereby making it a lot easier for those already here to find good jobs. This will also hopefully lead to a rise in salaries, as the supply of new teachers slows...

But, given the fact that these new measures are largely laughable, they'll have done nothing but make it easier for the undesirables who are here to stay here.

Good job!

Seriously... all that red tape, qualifications and criminal/medical checks and the fact that you have to look decent also... just to roll th dice and likely end up in a ding ding dang hogwan getting your arsh0le abused by 9 year olds? It's laughable.

[lowpo]

[The Perfect Cup of Coffee]

I sort of agree. I mean at least coming here on a tourist visa to look for work is a decent enough idea. But, I suppose asking for sympathy after someone has been caught is kind of pathetic like some of the posts on the old EFL-law website.

[lastat06513]

I am not talking about coming to Korea on a tourist visa to look for a job. I mean coming to Korea on a tourist visa and teaching....

I know alot of people don't have the potential to be their own boss, but I think most people coming to Korea, including alot of people on this board, could do a heck of alot better than the average Hakwon director.

As for getting caught?
There have been alot of threads where people claim they don't want attention from other people (kinda' anti-social in my book). They can turn that into a virtue in that they can go from one place to another quietly without speaking to another soul and leaving the same way.....

"The bird that squawks the least will ellude the hunter" I always say

[rico4444]

I say more power to you if you can find work and live without looking over your shoulder all the time. Most employers won't hire you and those that do must be pretty shady in their own right. So if you can do it, go for it!

[lastat06513]

I personally have no worries....if I were to come to Korea tomorrow, I carry a military ID card, no one would bother me.

As for employers not willing to hire anyone on a tourist visa.....think again....a friend of mine is in Korea right now doing just that and making on average 5 million a month.

True, I think things are alittle hectic right now, but once things die down, it will be business as usual

[PGF]

I'd do it in a second but americans only get 30 day tourist visas. If I was canadian. I'd be in heaven.

[Cheonmunka]

[littlelisa]

I think it's a bad idea; you work on a tourist visa and you're caught, and you get fined and deported. Not worth the risk. A visa's not THAT difficult to get!

You'd have no medical insurance, probably be at the mercy of your employers, who could turn you in to immigration, etc. And therefore they could pressure you into accepting lower pay than agreed upon, not paying as much as they should, etc. If there are any problems and you get screwed over, you can't go take it to the labour board because you're working illegally.

The employers who'd hire an illegal teacher are probably not those who would treat their employees best.

I would never do this, nor would I give that advice to anyone.

[Masta_Don]

[yingwenlaoshi]

Teaching privately and making a tonne of money is pretty much a myth.

Let's say you even get to 5 million. Take 1 million off that for the flights, severence, and apartment. Then account for cancellations. Take into consideration the time it takes you to get up to 5 million. Deduct another 1 million. You're not going to hit 5 million off the bat (if you ever do). Then take into consideration having to fly to Japan (or maybe back to your home country ) and the other costs that will entail. Deduct another 200,000. Then you've got cancellations. You'll have plenty of those. Deduct another 300,000 (at the very least). Then transportation. What do you thin that will run you? I'd say 100,000 (being generous to a fault).

5 million less:

1 million
1 million
200,000
300,000
100,000

Equals 2.4 million. And that's if you ever reach 5 million at one point. Half of what you make with all the running around and risking the chance of being deported and having to throw 5 million of that away for a fine. So take off 1 million a month. That's 1.4 million.

Yeah. Good deal.

Privates suck. They'll just cancel all the time or reschedule and screw up your other classes. I know. I did them in Taiwan. Same here as there. In reality, 5 million is something like 3 million. You're really only making peanuts. People that tell you they're making 5 million on a tourist visa are lying through their teeth. It just sounds good. Maybe if they look ahead and have all these classes promised to them. Or if that's the most they could've potentially made one month. Then that's what the tell you.

Pure bullsh1t. I know.

Then you gotta lay down a housing deposit that you may or may not get back. Ha!

Forget it.

[yingwenlaoshi]

Privates suck! Mabye if you're doing them on the side, while legally working, they're better. But even then, they SUCK!

[littlelisa]

[Masta_Don]