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Rapacious Mr. Batstove

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Central Areola
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: 'Wise mother and good wife' to appear on 50,000W note |
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Korea's "best mum" chosen as face of new currency
Reuters | Tuesday, 6 November 200
South Korea's central bank chose the face of Korean motherhood as the first woman to be featured on its banknotes, but women's rights groups say the selection only reinforces sexist stereotypes.
Shin Saimdang, known for raising a famed Confucian scholar and having a deft hand in painting, will grace the new 50,000 won (26 pound) note when it debuts in early 2009, the Bank of Korea said.
Women's groups say her selection bolsters the idea that mothers should stay at home and devote their lives to their children's education.
Shin, whose nickname is "wise mother", gave birth to the 16th-century scholar Yi I, also known by his pen name Yulgok. She is celebrated for placing her son on the path to fame.
A paper on a government Web site describes Shin as "the best example of motherhood in Korean history", while the central bank said she was selected "to promote gender equality and women's participation in society".
Women's rights groups acknowledge Shin as an important figure but have been pushing for other female candidates, who have risen to positions of power and respect in a male-dominated society, to be placed on the new note.
"Although women nowadays are highly capable and educated, the idea of 'wise mother and good wife' holds them down," said Kwon Hee-jung, secretary general of the women's rights group IF.
More than a dozen women's rights groups plan to protest against the bank's decision.
Yulgok's face is already on the 5,000 won note. Shin will appear on the second-highest valued note after the new 100,000 bill is also issued in 2009. |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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Seeing as how women here weren't allowed to do a whole hell of a lot except be a good mother and wife, I don't find it a problem to feature this chick on the new bill. |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Location: Central Areola
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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If Korea wasn't such a patriarchal society I would understand the decision. If they wanted to reinforce gender equality, they should select a female candidate with qualities similar to that of other male banknote representatives. Selecting someone famous for nothing else than being wise and raising a good son really doesn't inspire much these days. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote: |
If Korea wasn't such a patriarchal society I would understand the decision. If they wanted to reinforce gender equality, they should select a |
male candidate. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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if it weren't for all the cool mobile phones, etc. i'd swear i was living in the '50s |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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That's actually funny that Korea's sexism and nepotism even extends to who gets put on their money. They couldn't pick a women who wasn't already related to someone on another bill? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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So the OP's position is that raising children is something unworthy of being honored? I found his whole argument as ludicrous as it is misogynistic. This especially caught my eye
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they should select a female candidate with qualities similar to that of other male banknote representatives. Selecting someone famous for nothing else than being wise and raising a good son really doesn't inspire much these days. |
So, only those doing ale type jobs are worthy of being honored on a bill and that raising kids is nothing.
Nice argument, too bad its highly offensive and extremely stupid.
Raising kids is a very difficult job. Probably more so than the so-called male jobs. Instead of pushing this very noble work to the fringes I am happy the government will pay homage to it. Women are free to do things they want these days, the sad thing is that in the backlash the feminists and the idiots are spitting on motherhood and child rearing. |
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nomad-ish

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
So the OP's position is that raising children is something unworthy of being honored? I found his whole argument as ludicrous as it is misogynistic. This especially caught my eye
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they should select a female candidate with qualities similar to that of other male banknote representatives. Selecting someone famous for nothing else than being wise and raising a good son really doesn't inspire much these days. |
So, only those doing ale type jobs are worthy of being honored on a bill and that raising kids is nothing.
Nice argument, too bad its highly offensive and extremely stupid.
Raising kids is a very difficult job. Probably more so than the so-called male jobs. Instead of pushing this very noble work to the fringes I am happy the government will pay homage to it. Women are free to do things they want these days, the sad thing is that in the backlash the feminists and the idiots are spitting on motherhood and child rearing. |
i don't think that's what the poster meant. raising kids i'm sure is a difficult job, but in a country like korea where women are usually viewed as mothers and wives, first and foremost, it would be really nice to have a korean woman on a bill that shows she can do other things.
one excellent example would be Yu Gwan-Sun. to have her on a bill would encourage korean women to stand up for what they believe in, and show that women can shape the future themselves directly (as opposed to having a son and letting him shape the future...) |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Excuse me while I feel nostalgic for those immense piles of Won when I used to get paid in cash. Oddly fun, that was. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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jinju wrote: |
So, only those doing ale type jobs are worthy of being honored on a bill and that raising kids is nothing.
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I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there are literally billions of mothers currently alive today, not to mention the billions that have come before. I fail to see how being a mother (even a great mother) is worth getting your face on a bill. While being a parent is hard, it's certainly not exceptional.
The fact of the matter is, the Korean government felt some pressure, so they decided to alleviate it by putting a woman on one of their notes. However, they specifically chose a woman who fit into traditional female gender roles, and you're blind if you don't see that. Hell, from the article it seems that the greatest thing she did was birth a famous scholar. So basically, she's a glorified baby factory... congrats to her. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Jesus Christ, what other woman would they select? It's not like Korea has ever had a surplus of notable women. Chunhyang, the unrequited lover? Nongae, the heroic gisaeng? I think it's a fine choice. Instead of complaining, perhaps women's groups should spend that time and energy on actually producing women who contribute something.
And since when is motherhood/parenthood something to be ashamed of? Jesus Tapdancing Christ. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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Whats the average birth rate in Korea these days? 1 child per couple? Guess what, in a generation or two there wont be enough people to fill all those glorious jobs that according to you misogynysts are so much superior to being a mother. And no, she wasnt JUST a mother, she was a good mother. Anyone can be a mother, but anyone can be a doctor or a lawyer or whatever. the difficulty is being GOOD at what you do. Korea needs mothers, Korea needs GOOD mothers. Anyone can write something on dave's, but as this thread so PAINFULLY shows, not everyone can write something insightful and intelligent. |
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aarontendo

Joined: 08 Feb 2006 Location: Daegu-ish
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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I was thinking they could have used Queen Min, but yeah that would probably just open up more anti-Japanese feelings. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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Most women that are feminists are lesbians, or college students. Once most women see their friends getting married to some rich dude and staying home and having babies (hopefully with the assistance of a nanny) they become jealous.
Most women want a man to take care of them, period. They don't want the responsibility of home and job. They want the man to take care of bringing in the money. 90% of women would choose to have a rich husband and stay home with the kids. That's why you never see pretty feminists, because pretty women have options, and the option they chose is to land a rich husband. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Smee wrote: |
And since when is motherhood/parenthood something to be ashamed of? Jesus Tapdancing Christ. |
At what point did anyone say motherhood or parenthood was something to be ashamed of? All anyone is saying is that birthing and raising a child isn't exactly uncommon.
Jinju wrote: |
And no, she wasnt JUST a mother, she was a good mother. Anyone can be a mother, but anyone can be a doctor or a lawyer or whatever. |
Wow, good job lady, you were a good mom. Get in line with the millions of other good moms. Bravo your life. I wonder when my mom's gonna get her face plastered on legal tender.
And how many doctors and lawyers do you see on bills?
I don't use this term often, but you're both fucking retards if you don't see how this is a slap in the face to any woman who might want something different from her culture's rigid gender roles. Feminism is about allowing women choices; choices they are normally discouraged from making. That includes anything everything from motherhood to world leader. I'm sorry if you find it intimidating/insulting that some women would rather work than birth children. |
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