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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony_Balony wrote:
Your point lacks a quality or even quality. Its an old PC argument and its got more arm twist than validity.


Does the mob represent the Italian community? C'mon.
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renzobenzo1



Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Location: Suji, Yongin

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok then tell me this.

In my view a Korean immigrant in Australia will be more accepted and blend in easier than an Australian migrating to Korea.....

Correct me if I'm wrong....

Let's assume this Australian learns to speak Korean perfectly....

In my opinion if you are an Aisan and you can speak English fluently and live in say Australia you will be 80% there to fitting in.....Sure you will always get a few haters anywhere you go.....

But these seem far more prominant in Korea...

Correct me if I'm wrong....has anyone made that transition here in Korea who can give some more insight....
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

renzobenzo1 wrote:
In my view a Korean immigrant in Australia will be more accepted and blend in easier than an Australian migrating to Korea.....


Sure. But so what?
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Alyallen



Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents integrated, got citizenship but can still be considered Jamaican without it being some sort of attack on patriotism.

But hey...what's two more Blacks in America?

Asians stand out more. They deal with more shit and at the end of the day, will still be asked "What country are you from?" even if they are 2nd or 3rd generation. So...with that sort of reaction, I can sort of understand why some cling to their ethnic identity more than other immigrants.

But like another poster said, look at the children. If the parents are really thinking about their children, they will look to strike a balance that acknowledges where they came from but accept where they are now and that the future is in the present, not rooted in the past.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

renzobenzo1,

You are probably right. However this has more to do with the way each respective nation developed (immigration/multi-ethinic vs mono-ethinic/non-immigration).

In an ethinically homogenous society differences stand out more. Interactions are different as well.

In multi-ethinical and mass-immigration based societies differences tend to blend in visually. Communities do end up settling with one another most of the time but you are right to say an asian would probably blend in in a major city in Australia or Canada.

This however is nothing more than a simple fact of life and has no bearing on the quality (hard to define anyway) of a society or nation....
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
Tony_Balony wrote:
Your point lacks a quality or even quality. Its an old PC argument and its got more arm twist than validity.


Does the mob represent the Italian community? C'mon.


There's no way he gets this analogy.
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