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Immigration Notice E2 Visas Dec 1st.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:12 am    Post subject: Immigration Notice E2 Visas Dec 1st. Reply with quote

We all received the notice about Dec 1 rules changes for E2 visas.
It was in Korean. I assume all recruiters got this today.
My staff translated it for me...the English is a little coarse, but you get the general idea.
Itallics are my comments
Strap yourselves in...


Immigration will do this from December 1st to prevent the
illegal work of English native teachers who cause
social problems such as unlicensed teacher, drug and sexual
criminal.

To prevent the inflow of unlicensed teachers, teachers must
submit Criminal records and Medical reports and then
teachers will have an interview at a Korean Consulate in teacher's
country.


Immigration will restrict into Korea teachers who are
illegal through forged diplomas , drug abusers and
sexual criminals. Also Immigration will strengthen penalties
for illegal employers.

To get E-2 visa teachers must submit a criminal record and a medical certificate (including drug tests) and then teacher will acquire a heath check from a Korean hospital after arrival.

To prevent forged documents such as Criminal records, teachers must submit Apostille documents that is supporting evidence (documents is real) ...dunno what this means.

Up to now a foreign teacher can get visa from Japan or China but from December foreign teachers must get visa from Korean Consulate in their Country. Teacher will get consulate interview when teachers apply for the first time for an E2 visa.


To prevent submission forgeries when teachers apply for a visa permission number at Immigration.

To solve lack of foreign teacher because of strict rules of
immigration. We will make best use of foreign teachers in
Korea and certificated licensed foreign teacher. ...WTF???

Japan visa runs become obsolete.
If teacher is working more than 9 months in their current employment and is professional person, it is possible to transfer visa.

If you want any more on this you can email me....
I would imagine all this will cause a few stirs...
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Trioxin_Failure



Joined: 24 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: retroactive aspects Reply with quote

Is this considered retroactive at all? I'm actually on my first month of a renewed contract (third year in korea total) and have been approved twice and extended once. I will be going on vacation to new york in december for one month and am wondering if I would face any additional hassle upon re-entering korea (such as criminal records and medical ones)

I noticed the part about the working for 9months might exempt that but I was wondering if you knew anything more detailed as far as the retroactive nature of the new law

Thanks
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that guy



Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korea Herald has a little write up here.


The Korea Herald wrote:
The application process for an E-2 teaching visa will be tightened up in December.

According to a Ministry of Justice press release, foreigners who apply for teaching visas will have to submit a criminal background check, a medical check, and must undergo an interview with the closest Korean consulate to their home town. Visa runs to Japan will also be scrapped. Teachers must now receive and renew visas their home country.

The exact date of implementation has not yet been decided, an official at the Ministry of Justice said. "The changed regulations will be implemented sometime in December but we have not yet set an exact date as the ministry is still in the process of finalizing the details."
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know everything there is to know on these new laws as I am just reading them today and as this is Korea, I would imagine that they will change a bit here and there over the next month or two...or three.

If anyone wants to PM me, I can give you what I think it all means to your particular situation, but I would imagine there would be posters on this forum who know more than me.

I would guess these new laws only happen when you are either applying for your first E2 visa, or applying for a job with a new school, or returning to Korea after some time away.

EPIK are making F2, F4 and F5 visa holders submit the same docs this year so I would imagine this would follow into the private system.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So who does the extra cost get passed on to?

Teachers won't pay for a trip home, lodging and all the extras for a job they're not guaranteed to get, and employers won't pay for a potential hire that may get rejected.

The whole interview thing is just absolutely ridiculous. Have they considered the man hours it will take to schedule interviews? How are consulates (all 3 of them in Canada? What, 5 in the states?) going to handle THOUSANDS of interviews???

I'm all for the criminal and medical checks, though.
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Aussiekimchi



Joined: 21 Apr 2006
Location: SYDNEY

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would guess these new laws only happen when you are either applying for your first E2 visa, or applying for a job with a new school, or returning to Korea after some time away.
sorry..if you are in Korea working, you can transfer your visa over to a new school...teachers in Korea do not have to go home to have an interview...but you will have to submit a CBC and a medical ..and get a check up from a Korean hospital....
God I would hate to be a recruiter with all this stuff going on...oh wait
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aussiekimchi wrote:
teachers in Korea do not have to go home to have an interview...but you will have to submit a CBC and a medical.

So what about if i have an F2, have taught here for many years and am in korea now but am presently NOT working so i can't trasnfer over my E2 as my contract has expired...

Do i have to go home and do a medical in my home country??
-I am all for doing a medical(and drug test) here if that is the case and having to arrange a criminal check but find it ridiculous if I have to go all the way back to australia to do a 2nd medical.
-Also do i need to go for this interview...

-If that is the case I don't think i will be doing any E2 work for a while until things settle down a bit in a few months. this will last about as long as the 3 year diploma...

-I can see the police checks staying though and that is a good thing.
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"To solve lack of foreign teacher because of strict rules of
immigration. We will make best use of foreign teachers in
Korea and certificated licensed foreign teacher. ...WTF???"


Does anybody else interpret this as maybe, just maybe, they'll let E2 teachers work side jobs? That would be a golden windfall for those six or seven hundred who survive the purge.
But nah...that'd make too much sense.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blurgalurgalurga wrote:
"To solve lack of foreign teacher because of strict rules of
immigration. We will make best use of foreign teachers in
Korea and certificated licensed foreign teacher. ...WTF???"


Does anybody else interpret this as maybe, just maybe, they'll let E2 teachers work side jobs? That would be a golden windfall for those six or seven hundred who survive the purge.
But nah...that'd make too much sense.


No, I think it's actually something we'll find wonderful!

They might allow us to change schools and not have to leave the country, if we have put in time here and finished a contract!

Be positive!
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apostille means notarization. This is where you take a document to a notory public who stamps it as being valid. It is common with legal documents and business deal documents in the US. You usually go to a bank to find a notary public person. It can be a headache proving that what your document says is true which often requires all parties mentioned on the document to be present at the same time in front of the notary public to swear the oath that it is indeed, true to the word. If the notary public person trusts you, then they will stamp it just with you in presence. If turned down, try another notary public.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:
If the notary public person trusts you, then they will stamp it just with you in presence. If turned down, try another notary public.


And keep trying until you find another one willing to break the law and lose their license. If I were a notary public, I woudn't trust anyone on the planet enough to notarize something I haven't witnessed. When I was a PN1 in the USN, one of my duties was to certify copies of service record pages as true. Guess how many copies I certified without seeing the original. Go ahead. Guess.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A million?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All this and nothing has been announced yet. I wonder if you're the only one whose school has received this.

The only things that make sense are, although a little invasive, are the police and medical checks. Everything else can be done in Korea are in countries in close proximity.

I guess if you look at it though, it's been the same in the States for a while (don't know about Canada). To get in with a new work visa, you have to leave the country and come back again. Not sure if you have to go back to your home country if you're in the States though. Maybe. Korea is a little far for that though. Especially when these jobs need people from halfway around the world.

I renew my visa the 2nd week of December. And I'm waiting for my passport which had to be renewed by the same date. I'll get my passport before the end of November and just renew it as soon as I get it. I don't think, however, that it's I'll be affected by any changes.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In a way though, the police checks are kind of silly. Maybe. I mean, do they even let people who have recent serious crimes against them out of their country? Do they give them passports? Have these people, if their crimes were long enough ago, been reformed? Are they not going to let people in who have records for silly things like stealing a neighbor's Christmas tree light?

Hmm.

Oh well. Doesn't affect me.
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slothrop



Joined: 03 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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