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Do you visit Starbucks?
I go to Starbucks and I live in a city with one
44%
 44%  [ 20 ]
I go to Starbucks and travel to another city to do so
6%
 6%  [ 3 ]
I don't go to Starbucks and I live in a city with one
26%
 26%  [ 12 ]
I don't go to Starbucks and I live in a city without one
8%
 8%  [ 4 ]
I go to expensive coffee shops, but only for the hookers
4%
 4%  [ 2 ]
I go to Starbucks when a Sex and the City wannabe drags me there thinking it makes him/her sophisticated
8%
 8%  [ 4 ]
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Do you visit Starbucks or another chain often? Reply with quote

I don't see the appeal of going to a fancy coffee shop that charges something like $4-$6 a coffee when I can get a lovely cup for 150-300won at the vending machine.

I can almost see the point, in the summer, if you don't have air conditioning in your home and want somewhere to hang out. But you could still go hang out in a library or random University building or something instead. Outside of summer? NO EXCUSE except to look at pretty girls... and you could do that for free by hanging out on a Uni campus instead anyway. Either that or you like throwing money away.

If you tell me you go there to study WITHOUT buying a coffee, you're awesome. I could do that.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Do you visit Starbucks or another chain often? Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
I don't see the appeal of going to a fancy coffee shop that charges something like $4-$6 a coffee when I can get a lovely cup for 150-300won at the vending machine.

I can almost see the point, in the summer, if you don't have air conditioning in your home and want somewhere to hang out. But you could still go hang out in a library or random University building or something instead. Outside of summer? NO EXCUSE except to look at pretty girls... and you could do that for free by hanging out on a Uni campus instead anyway. Either that or you like throwing money away.

If you tell me you go there to study WITHOUT buying a coffee, you're awesome. I could do that.


Because I like coffee that tastes good and a pleasant place to sit in, read, meet friends, or whatever, rather than a nasty cup of chemical sludge imbibed standing up by a dirty vending machine on a germ-infested pavement.
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately, Korea doesn't have a lot of great indy coffee shops. The ones that you could call "indy" are the ones that serve really weak coffee. They don't have an indy vibe either.

In the city I live in back home, there is a coffee shop that roasts its own beans, has a variety of coffees, has an interior with no design whatsoever, just some chairs and mybe a few pictures up on the wall and whatnot. Some of their chairs are carseats and barstools. They even have a big whiteboard that people write whatever they want on. Completely unstylish. It's popular, though, not only because it's near a campus, but because the coffee is perfect, not too expensive, and it's a god place to sit and study. It's actually caught on with a lot of Koreans these days.

In Korea, Starbucks et al. pretty much have that market cornered. An indy coffee shop would be starved in Korea. It's unfortunate, but Starbucks isn't all that bad.
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starbucks coffee is gross.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chachee99 wrote:
Starbucks coffee is gross.

That's what I was hinting at. I think it's gross.

I PREFER my 150won vending machine stuff. (except the size is smaller.. so maybe I need to compare it to like 3 or 4 of them..)
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I didn't smoke, I'd probably like Starbucks more. I hate drinking coffee but not being able to smoke, hence my dislike for the place.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Do you visit Starbucks or another chain often? Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
I don't see the appeal of going to a fancy coffee shop that charges something like $4-$6 a coffee when I can get a lovely cup for 150-300won at the vending machine.

I can almost see the point, in the summer, if you don't have air conditioning in your home and want somewhere to hang out. But you could still go hang out in a library or random University building or something instead. Outside of summer? NO EXCUSE except to look at pretty girls... and you could do that for free by hanging out on a Uni campus instead anyway. Either that or you like throwing money away.


Yeah, but then you'd be a creepy guy that goes to university campuses every day to stare at girls while drinking 300 won coffee. Mm, if I nurse my 300 won coffee for a full hour I can check out about 100 girls, for a rate of 3WPO (won per ogle). You can't beat that for creepy.

Starbucks is good when you have about four hours to study. Buy one coffee, break out the mp3 player and do some dictation practice. In the meantime the people going in and out keep you from getting that feeling of separation from the rest of the world that you get from spending the same period of time in a library.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: Do you visit Starbucks or another chain often? Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Hyeon Een wrote:
I don't see the appeal of going to a fancy coffee shop that charges something like $4-$6 a coffee when I can get a lovely cup for 150-300won at the vending machine.

I can almost see the point, in the summer, if you don't have air conditioning in your home and want somewhere to hang out. But you could still go hang out in a library or random University building or something instead. Outside of summer? NO EXCUSE except to look at pretty girls... and you could do that for free by hanging out on a Uni campus instead anyway. Either that or you like throwing money away.


Yeah, but then you'd be a creepy guy that goes to university campuses every day to stare at girls while drinking 300 won coffee. Mm, if I nurse my 300 won coffee for a full hour I can check out about 100 girls, for a rate of 3WPO (won per ogle). You can't beat that for creepy.

Starbucks is good when you have about four hours to study. Buy one coffee, break out the mp3 player and do some dictation practice. In the meantime the people going in and out keep you from getting that feeling of separation from the rest of the world that you get from spending the same period of time in a library.


Nah... they go in and out in a library too.. the only difference is that their beverage is cheaper =) (I worked in a Korean library for 6 months, You also get the entertainment value of creeps and psychos in a public library.. I recommend a coupla weeks in one sometime)
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chachee99 wrote:
Starbucks coffee is gross.


Actually, that's the thing - it's not. It's really good coffee. Go and have a plain old black coffee with no sugar and tell me it's not the best you've had in Korea. The only Korean chain that comes close is Ediya, and even then, it's not THAT close. What the Korean places don't seem to realise is that when I have a black coffee, I should not be able to see to the bottom of the cup until the very last mouthful.
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I brew my own. While it seams expensive for 200 grams of gourmet coffee grounds to cost 8000 won, it makes more than 2 small skimpy cups of coffee. I do like Starbucks when I go to the city such as Seoul as I don't have hot water to pour into my melita over my Hikoka coffee grounds when away from home.

Starbucks is ridiculously overpriced here. I thought it was expensive in the US, but I hadn't seen nothing until I came to Korea. I found that Starbucks Korea serves drinks half the size of American ones at almost double the cost.

How could you save money if you lived conveniently nearby a Starbucks? I bet living in Seoul eats up all the money for many of you teaching there due to convenience and all the possibilities being within walking distance. I will stick with my coffee grounds in the apartment for now.
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Chloe11



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I refuse to buy 5 dollar coffee. I refused to do it at home, and I refuse to do it here. That said, the environment is nice and cozy. Mind you, so is a park. I'd just as well brew my own and go to the park.
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anf1984



Joined: 03 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love Starbucks.... I brought a few pounds of coffee over with me (an old roomie works there and gets the stuff for free!). I just hate how expensive it is, and it's just not the same here. I want a pumpkin spice latte! It was always my favourite study spot though.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coffee at starbucks is only 2700 won for a tall. If you buy those cappaccino/frappacinno things then it costs a fortune. But those suck. Give me a black drip coffee any day.
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JMO



Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Some of their chairs are carseats and barstools


Can you give me the address of this place, so I can burn it down, then piss the word 'pretentious' into the ashes?
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crazy_arcade



Joined: 05 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mith on this one.
I usually drink most of my coffee at home anyways.
However, Starbucks does make a mean Americano (their only good drink in my opinion) and I can chill there for several hours and study, read a book or whatnot.

300 won coffee? You couldn't pay me 30,000 won to drink that shite.
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