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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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 Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:40 am Post subject: All this for fingerprints? |
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My friend, who is currently in Korea, is trying to get his criminal background check for a public school job. He needs to get fingerprinted, so obviously he needs to get that done at a local police station. He goes there, asked to get finger prints so he can send them off for his background check. They tell him he needs a letter from the school requesting the background check.
So he gets the letter and then they tell him that they need someone from the school to come down and answer question before they can fingerprint him. Keep in mind that the fingerprints are not for a Korean criminal background check but for one in his home country. My friend has not been hired by this school but knows it is a requirement for employment so he's trying to get it done early.
Has anyone else had to go through this much bullshit for something that should be so simple? I don't understand the logic in this situation. If he wants to have a background check available to give to any future employer, that would require getting it before he starts working for them, so why the need to have a Korean in the equation? And keep in mind, this is just for some stinkin' fingerprints
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Optimus Prime
Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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| it just keeps getting better and better. I wonder if Koreans know how much all this makes them look like baffoons. Why can't Korean Immigration hire a poster from Dave's like ttopatz or Homer as a consultant. Perhaps implementing one thing at a time, benchmarking the success/practicality ratios could be suggested. Aiiiiiiiiiiiiissssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Homer
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Perhaps implementing one thing at a time, benchmarking the success/practicality ratios could be suggested. |
Indeed....
But the government is reacting to intense public pressure due to a culmination of events (Pediophiles, frauds and such)....
They are killing the slug with a sledgehammer...there will be splatter.
I think overall they are doing something that was long overdue. They are just doing it too quickly and doing too much of it at the same time. There is no flexibility in the new rules.
I have a feeling this will be ironed out as time goes by. |
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genezorm
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: Mokpo
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: Re: All this for fingerprints? |
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| Alyallen wrote: |
My friend, who is currently in Korea, is trying to get his criminal background check for a public school job. He needs to get fingerprinted, so obviously he needs to get that done at a local police station. He goes there, asked to get finger prints so he can send them off for his background check. They tell him he needs a letter from the school requesting the background check.
So he gets the letter and then they tell him that they need someone from the school to come down and answer question before they can fingerprint him. Keep in mind that the fingerprints are not for a Korean criminal background check but for one in his home country. My friend has not been hired by this school but knows it is a requirement for employment so he's trying to get it done early.
Has anyone else had to go through this much *beep* for something that should be so simple? I don't understand the logic in this situation. If he wants to have a background check available to give to any future employer, that would require getting it before he starts working for them, so why the need to have a Korean in the equation? And keep in mind, this is just for some stinkin' fingerprints
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A teacher from my school told me about the criminal record check being requested for all Native Speakers working in public schools. He said I should be able to get it from Canada in about 2 weeks. After doing the research, finding out the fingerprints are needed, and it takes over 120 days after the request is received.
He then contacted the local police office who said they can't do that kind of fingerprinting. He then contacted the provincial capital police office who said they need to prepare a form for fingerprinting foreigners. That was 2 weeks ago.
If everything runs smoothly, I hope I can get the fingerprints done, have it sent to canada, have them take 120 days to do it, have it sent back to Korea, just as my contract is finishing.
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Re: All this for fingerprints? |
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| Alyallen wrote: |
My friend, who is currently in Korea, is trying to get his criminal background check for a public school job. He needs to get fingerprinted, so obviously he needs to get that done at a local police station. He goes there, asked to get finger prints so he can send them off for his background check. They tell him he needs a letter from the school requesting the background check.
So he gets the letter and then they tell him that they need someone from the school to come down and answer question before they can fingerprint him. |
Tell your friend to go to another station. When I applied for my RCMP check, I walked into the nearest police station, explained I needed my fingerprints done, told them I needed it for the RCMP, and 15 minutes later it was done. No fee, no hassle, no come back later, no request from the school, no interrogation about why I needed it. Roll, stamp, roll stamp, ... Easy as pie.
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| He then contacted the local police office who said they can't do that kind of fingerprinting. |
BS. I (and many others) had it done. Again, try a different station. One who knows what the hell they are talking about. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Re: All this for fingerprints? |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Alyallen wrote: |
My friend, who is currently in Korea, is trying to get his criminal background check for a public school job. He needs to get fingerprinted, so obviously he needs to get that done at a local police station. He goes there, asked to get finger prints so he can send them off for his background check. They tell him he needs a letter from the school requesting the background check.
So he gets the letter and then they tell him that they need someone from the school to come down and answer question before they can fingerprint him. |
Tell your friend to go to another station. When I applied for my RCMP check, I walked into the nearest police station, explained I needed my fingerprints done, told them I needed it for the RCMP, and 15 minutes later it was done. No fee, no hassle, no come back later, no request from the school, no interrogation about why I needed it. Roll, stamp, roll stamp, ... Easy as pie.
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| He then contacted the local police office who said they can't do that kind of fingerprinting. |
BS. I (and many others) had it done. Again, try a different station. One who knows what the hell they are talking about. |
Well....the first time they said sure no problem. The second time, the police officer called other stations asking about how it works and that's when this bullshit occurred (this change in policy seems to have happened in the span of 2 weeks). I told him to go to another station or a bigger station but he's (understandably) pissed off about this so he is going to have the school call a station and sort it all out.
This seems so unnecessary and moronic. He wants to get fingerprints to follow Korean law but these butthole Korean police officers are screwing things up. My friend is going to replace me at my job, so I can talk to people at my school and sort it out. But seriously...there's a reason my sig line says what it says and this is a classic example. |
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blurgalurgalurga
Joined: 18 Oct 2007
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It's the nature of bureaucracies, perhaps especially here: the left hand doesn't know who the right hand is flipping off.
In this case its maybe more like the bureaucracy is actually an octopus, and half the arms have minds of their own, while one arm is imitating something it saw on tv without really understanding it, and another arm is trying to follow conflicting orders from the other arms, but the seventh arm is hideously withered and an embarrassment and should have been amputated years ago, and the last arm is locked in a permanent, frenzied autoerotic pleasure festival like a blind, well-fed bonobo.
That's the lucky arm. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: Re: All this for fingerprints? |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| genezorm wrote: |
| He then contacted the local police office who said they can't do that kind of fingerprinting. |
BS. I (and many others) had it done. Again, try a different station. One who knows what the hell they are talking about. |
Ditto. I stopped by my gu cop shop yesterday and got fingerprinted in 10 minutes. No questions asked, no ID required  . |
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mj roach
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| Anyone else think they will resume fingerprinting all of us as s.o.p. again soon? esp. since other countries are requiring them on entry. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone else think they will resume fingerprinting all of us as s.o.p. again soon? |
I'm surprised it hasn't been brought back already. Doesn't affect me. They already have my prints from before they did away with the practice.
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| esp. since other countries are requiring them on entry. |
Having one index finger electronically scanned at airport immigration is a bit different than having a full set of ink-rolled fingerprints taken at the local immigration office. The first is identification, the second makes me feel like I'm going to prison. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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... and the last arm is locked in a permanent, frenzied autoerotic pleasure festival like a blind, well-fed bonobo.
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My nominee for simile of the year. Did you come up with that yourself? I hope you are teaching creative writing. |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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| what's the bloody point of this fingerprinting, anyway? if you need proof of ID, just check my passport or alien card or driver's license! is there a rash of unsolved cases committed during my last sojourn home? |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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| just check my passport or alien card or driver's license! |
alien cards and driver's licences are no longer valid unless they are apostilled, you fake! |
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ernie
Joined: 05 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| what's apostilled? |
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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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According to Wikipedia:
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Apostille is also a French word which means a certification. It is commonly used in English to refer to the legalization of a document for international use under the terms of the 1961 Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents. Documents which have been notarized by a notary public, and certain other documents, and then certified with a conformant apostille are accepted for legal use in all the nations that have signed the Hague Convention.
Obtaining an apostille can be a highly complex process. Getting a birth certificate with apostille in New York, for example, requires applying to three separate offices in succession |
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