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New E2 Visa Law: Doesn't sound like a problem.
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BTSskytrain



Joined: 11 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: New E2 Visa Law: Doesn't sound like a problem. Reply with quote

O-K, so big deal. Teachers will have to fly to their home country for a silly interview. 99% of all employers pay for a flight home after completing a contract so what's the problem? The ticket to the home country is paid for. Furthermore, if a teacher re-signs for another year with the same school, that school will undoubtedly pay for the trip back to Korea to do the second year. If the teacher decides not to re-sign with the same school for another year but rather sign with a different school, the teacher's new school will undoubtedly pay for the ticket back to Korea. Seems pretty cut and dried to me unless there's a piece of the puzzle missing of which I am unaware.

The only people really affected will be those newbies who would rather not be hired from abroad and choose to fly to Korea (on their own dime) on a tourist visa and hit the pavement seeking work. Once they land a job then what? Fly back to their home country? On who's dime? No employer in their right mind is going to fly somebody from Korea back to their home country before the teacher has done any work.

Got any ideas?
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, man, yer dead wrong.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schools will have to shell out a lot more for airfare, which is a big burden on them. Smaller schools might not be able to afford it, which means more Korean teachers and less available jobs for us.

This also means more time away- going all the way to our home countries and getting the visa there will take a few extra days. This is going to either be a problem for curriculums or vacations that people have scheduled.

It might not affect teachers here that have roots and a life here, but it will keep both the backpacker and the serious teacher out.
Why? The backpacker will say it's not worth the trouble for a year of work when there is less red tape in other countries.
The serious teacher will decide s/he doesn't want to start a career in a country with so much red tape.

If they did away with this "interview in the applicant's home country" b.s. it would be much better.
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PeterDragon



Joined: 15 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wha-wha-what????!

Okay, what's this new law? Does anyone have a link to it? I DO see this law as a "problem" and would like to know the exact wording. How long has this law been in effect?
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blurgalurgalurga



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not in effect yet, but will be at some point in December-January. Nobody knows for sure, but it's essentially going to be:
criminal check
medical check
the above, notarized
and, the only really bad thing, an interview in your home country, at your local consulate. Whatever that means. Presumably, its a check for fashion sense and noraebang skill, on top of whatever bumlicks they're craving that day.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP- You live in a fantasy world. Rolling Eyes You might want to get back in touch with reality before you renew a visa.

BTW- Where exactly are you from that is so easy to reach from Korea? The rest of us (those teaching legally) are from the 5 countries and none of them are close to Korea.
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mj roach



Joined: 16 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hotels ain't cheap and getting around without a car ain't easy- not exactly a vacation of choice for some
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: New E2 Visa Law: Doesn't sound like a problem. Reply with quote

BTSskytrain wrote:
O-K, so big deal.
Got any ideas?


Sure, no problem. I have nothing better to do on my vacation after working my butt off for a year than hang around at government and medical offices. Rolling Eyes
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Re: New E2 Visa Law: Doesn't sound like a problem. Reply with quote

BTSskytrain wrote:
Furthermore, if a teacher re-signs for another year with the same school, that school will undoubtedly pay for the trip back to Korea to do the second year.

So, even though I already have ALL of the documents in my possession, giving up my vacation time just to fly back and get them notarized is not a problem? Roundtrip flight alone will be greater than 50 hours. And I've been in Korea for more than 11 years...WTF are they going to ask me at an interview? Do I like kimchi? Do you like Korea's four seasons?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm willing to bet that those conducting the interviews will be very poor Englishee speakers and we will struggle to understand wtf they're asking us. Rolling Eyes
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
I'm willing to bet that those conducting the interviews will be very poor Englishee speakers and we will struggle to understand wtf they're asking us. Rolling Eyes

The Toronto goons were okay... except for the condescension and sneering.
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Metsuke



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Young FRANKenstein wrote:
wylies99 wrote:
I'm willing to bet that those conducting the interviews will be very poor Englishee speakers and we will struggle to understand wtf they're asking us. Rolling Eyes

The Toronto goons were okay... except for the condescension and sneering.


God... the Toronto office were a bunch of tossers weren't they?
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: With the limited amount of consulate offices in the USA, a teacher is going to have to shell out a lot of time and money, either plane or gasoline money plus hotel, etc., in order to go to a BS interview. Given the time and money restrictions a lot of new graduates face, this fact alone will make Korea suffer from a lack of teachers.

Medical tests, criminal checks, etc. are easy. But there is no logical reason an interview can't be conducted in any country around the world or over the telephone.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
The rest of us (those teaching legally) are from the 5 countries and none of them are close to Korea.


Five? I count four: Canamerica, Austrazealandia, Englireland, and Safrica.
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Miguel12



Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Louisiana, USA

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Five? I count four: Canamerica, Austrazealandia, Englireland, and Safrica.


Nice one.
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