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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| Anything that threatens western hegemony is the enemy. Perhaps for the first time through technology an "empire" can maintain dominance beyond the old "decline and fall" idea. |
Unfortunately I think it's called the inevitable. There's no point in having the technology if the country is bankrupt and without allies. I can't see how America could drum up support with the wolves at it's doors. That's the inevitable. We hope it won't get to that.
Hegemonic status comes and goes. There is no other western nation who can replace it.
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| The decline of hegemony is perceived simultaneously as very slow and quite rapid. On the other hand, suddenly, everyone seems to notice that the authority of the hegemonic power is under serious challenge, and that the achievement of its political will is no longer automatic. The hegemonic power seems to be in some economic trouble, after a long period of unquestioned prosperity. And of course the very perception of these weaknesses increases them, since others are then ready to act in the inter state arena in ways that are markedly different from the ways in which they acted during the heyday of the hegemonic power. On the other hand, decline seems slow. The hegemonic power, even when it begins to decline, is clearly still the strongest power (militarily, politically, economically, even culturally). If it does not automatically get its way, it remains hard for anyone to do things against its will. If its economic lead is cut, it still seems (and is) wealthy. |
International Relations: critical concepts in political science
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contrarian
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| Have you ever heard of nuclear weapons? That is the technolgy of which I spoke. One US boomer has more capability that the entire Chinese arsenal. |
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Dome Vans Guest
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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| Have you ever heard of nuclear weapons? That is the technolgy of which I spoke. One US boomer has more capability that the entire Chinese arsenal. |
That's a scenario that I hope we never get to. Launching an offensive just to see if you can maintain western hegemonic status would be a step too far. That is just bi-polar, us and them thinking. But I doubt in anyone's mind that would create any support from the US's "allies". Even if it is just a war of words. |
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:04 am Post subject: |
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It is better than giving up a system that has served the west well.
Allies: Who? |
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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When I say allies, in my personal opinion, it comes down to "one bitten, twice shy" The Iraq war has burnt a lot of diplomatic bridges and I think that the US is unlikely to be able to rope in some of the countries that had previously helped them. Korea withdrew from Afghanistan, Italy left as well. I'm not saying that they were a major help there, but the reasons they withdrew will crop up again.
Also I can't see the English people allowing Brown to go to war again. He's unpopular and has little support. The next move that America makes, if it makes one, after this show of strength and ability, is going to be solitary. Hence the defence system.
I don't think there's a lot more that can be said to convince people about the mission in the Middle East. The objectives and reasons are too hazy. I think it'll remain this way. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| What homo erotic name is attached to this particular project? Is this another Rods from the Gods or a different program? |
You must have failed the don't ask don't tell policy. |
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igotthisguitar

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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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This good news will be bound to give a few people little stiffies.
Israel Gets US "Aid" For Anti-Missile System
Thu Nov 8, 10:24 AM ET
JERUSALEM (AFP) - The United States has given Israel 155 million dollars to develop an advanced missile interception system, Defence Minister Ehud Barak's office said in a statement on Thursday.
The money, which Congress approved on Wednesday, will help advance the development of a multi-layered anti-missile system that Barak presented to his US counterpart Robert Gates in Washington last month, the statement said.
The system, dubbed David's Sling, is intended to counter projectiles ranging from rudimentary rockets of the sort frequently used by Gaza militants to long-range missiles like those in the arsenal of Israel's arch foe Iran.
Israel has already successfully tested and deployed its Arrow anti-missile system, jointly developed with the United States, which is said to be able to deflect most missile strikes against the Zionist state.
Widely seen as the region's sole if undeclared nuclear power, Israel considers Iran its chief enemy after repeated statements from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that the Zionist state should be wiped off the map.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/israelusdefencemissiles;_ylt=Av59PkSIJW_UrY5JLaRdOhMDW7oF |
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contrarian
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Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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| That is good news. Israel is one nuclear hot from ceasing to exist. |
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