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[Pligganease]

Of course the United States is more racist than the UK! We have "The South!" (Gasp!)

Yes, that's right! We have "The South." You know, home to the Jena Six, David Duke, the KKK, and the Dukes of Hazzard.

I'm not sure if all of you who are so quick to judge and have never been to "The South" know this or not, but my high school's chapter of the KKK met every Thursday in the school library and offered math tutoring to the white people in our school. Most of the white people I know carried nooses around with them at all times just in case on of the black "boys" in our school got uppity and thought he could use on of our water fountains.

"The South" was also the "bad guy" in the American Civil War. You know, that silly little war that's sole purpose was to free the slaves? If only the North had had a freedom loving leader like Ron Paul then...

I wish you could have seen my pick-up truck back home. I had a shotgun rack in the back window, and enough ammunition in the glove box so fight a small army of them "coloreds" should they try to take what didn't belong to them.

Idiots... I bet you people that love casting stones at the southern US really think that is what life is like, don't you?

Yes, there was segregation in the South. There was also racial segregation or racist policies of some sort in the North, Canada, and the entire British Empire.

Yes, the South had slaves. The policy of slavery was instituted by the British.

Facts: I have never heard of anyone being in the KKK. I have never seen a hate crime of any kind. I never owned a pick-up truck, and I have never brandished anything I owned with a Confederate Flag. The Civil War was not fought to free the slaves. It was fought for State's Rights, which is what you Ron Paul supporters should agree with. I don't even know how to tie a noose.

My high school was 40% white, 40% black, and 20% "other." I bet it's really easy for a person that went to school with about 4 non-white people to talk about how racist the south is.

"But, Pligganease! Southern people use racial slurs!" Really? British people don't? Canadians don't? South Africans don't?

Some of you people make me laugh. We have Big Verve, the voice of acceptance and equality, on here claiming that Britain is less "segregated" than the American northeast, and on countless other threads screaming about purging the Islamic threat from England while claiming they don't integrate well.

[SPINOZA]

I voted 'no idea' because I've absolutely no idea, but my points for consideration would be:

(a) On my brief visits to the States - which isn't good evidence - I got the impression the US was a much more racially and socially integrated society than Britain.

(b) Amongst Britain's middle-upper middle class, there's a great deal of racial integration and tolerance (and such a class in Britain is, of course, a huge percentage of the society). However, amongst the lower classes, possibly with the exception of poor areas of London such as Hackney, Walthamstow and Tottenham, there's a lot more segregation. In Manchester, for example, there are very Indian/Pakistani areas, very white areas, and a very black area (and even a very Irish area) with little integration. However, there's also no integration whatsoever between the top half of society and the bottom - it's a completely class-divided society regardless of race. Educated ethnic minorities are in a much better position than poor whites, but I suppose that goes without saying.

(c) I think there's a lot of racism amongst the lower class in Britain. That isn't just racism against non-whites, but, like in Korea, a hatred of anything foreign.

(d) Generally, both are very racially integrated and tolerant societies with the difference between rich and poor more conspicuous.

(e) Immigration into England must stop at once. It has a population density of 1007 people per sq mile. That's twice as crowded as South Korea. The most populous US State, California, has a population density of 217. This creates xenophobia and resentment.

[Kuros]

[Pligganease]

[Kuros]

Look, I don't think you have to resort to apologetics of the 19th Century Southern slave states to defend the South of the 21st Century.

[Pligganease]

[cbclark4]

April 12, 1861 - At 4:30 a.m. Confederates under Gen. Pierre Beauregard open fire with 50 cannons upon Fort Sumter in Charleston, South Carolina. The Civil War begins.


Sept 11, 1861 - President Lincoln revokes Gen. John C. Fr�mont's unauthorized military proclamation of emancipation in Missouri.


Jan 1, 1863 - President Lincoln issues the final Emancipation Proclamation freeing all slaves in territories held by Confederates and emphasizes the enlisting of black soldiers in the Union Army. The war to preserve the Union now becomes a revolutionary struggle for the abolition of slavery.

[Kuros]

[cbclark4]

http://www.longcamp.com/proc3.html

[Gopher]

My understanding is that the North initially fought the Civil War with the single goal of preserving the union. Only later in the war did it become a war to destroy the Southern political-economy and abolish slavery.

Still, "slavery" was the elephant in the room from start to finish.

[Big_Bird]

[Privateer]

[Big_Bird]

[stevieg4ever]

I would say the US is more integrated (im from the UK). I think one important thing to understand here is that the US has a much higher volume and density of 'minorities' taking into consideration the vast numbers of hispanic, black, jewish and asians that have settled their. UK doesnt have anywhere near the same volume.

London has a lot of cultural integration but, in this respect, is like a seperate nation compared to the rest of the UK. In the centre of London you here more foreign langauges then English, as a white/english person (or a even a Brit for that matter) when you step into any kind of shop or business in the centre you could well be the minority. as bigverne said Manchester is highly segregated: so too is leeds and liverpool, newcastle and numerous other parts of the country.

London is used to integration and diversity: the rest of the UK still has a lot of trouble coming to terms with this. Im sure people would stay that New York stands apart from the rest of the US for the same reasons as London does the UK but surely other states like florida, la, washington, michigan (just naming palces off the top of my head here lol) etc more closely resemble ny then the uk's other cities.

Lastly, the UK really has to force the issue of integration as well, especially london. Since ken livingston's appointment as mayor, diversity has become like an ideology of sorts.

[Kuros]