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Don't write names in red -- but WHY?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 5:20 pm    Post subject: Don't write names in red -- but WHY? Reply with quote

I know not to write students', co-workers', or ANYONE'S names in red (or pink or orange among the marginally colorblind or paranoid,) but what exactly is the reason? I know red ink is used to write the names of dead people -- but where? In the family registry? At the temple? In the Gu office?

Thanks for any help--

Oi!
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jaebea



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
Location: SYD

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww crap, this is in the Lonely Planet I have back at home..

This is off the website...

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Writing in red ink is a sign of unfriendliness, so make sure you have a black pen on you at all times.


I'm not sure of the exact reason, but I think what you're speculating is quite probable.

jae.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's basically one of those stupid Korean superstition. In government's family record form the deceased person's name were written in red(or lined through in red). That is why some people are still offended seeing his name put down in red while younger generations don't give a damn.
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Circus Monkey



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: In my coconut tree

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj is right. It has connotations of death. So...

don't do it OiGirl!

Mhuahahaha!

CM
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kiwioutofthenest



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say the younger generation does give a damn. One of my kids only had a red pen, i had supplied them with new books that day and they had to put their names on the front.....Took ten minutes for this kid cause all the others thought it would be funny for him to write it in red and wouldn't lend him a pen.
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l0ckx



Joined: 24 Sep 2003
Location: PA, USA

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj wrote:
It's basically one of those stupid Korean superstition.


may be superstition, but is a part of the culture...as for the younger generations not giving a damn i would look at it kinda like playing in graveyards when you were a kid. You know it's not respectful, but still a creepy thrill at the same time...not saying writing names in red is a creepy thrill, but kind of the same give and take respect with the older/younger generations.

peace,
l0ckx
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on the situation too. If you write something formally, they get a little ansy about the red - due to that superstition of death.

However, informal things like letters and cards, I have seen Korean's use red a lot.

Now here is what I think is the killer irony of this writing names in red issue:

Whenever they use their name stamp - guess what color the ink is? That's it RED! So they always stamp their names in red for offical stuff. My western mind can't understand why it is NECESSARY to use one form of your name in red, yet TABOO to do it in another form.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Pink wrote:
I think it depends on the situation too. If you write something formally, they get a little ansy about the red - due to that superstition of death.

However, informal things like letters and cards, I have seen Korean's use red a lot.

Now here is what I think is the killer irony of this writing names in red issue:

Whenever they use their name stamp - guess what color the ink is? That's it RED! So they always stamp their names in red for offical stuff. My western mind can't understand why it is NECESSARY to use one form of your name in red, yet TABOO to do it in another form.


Maybe it is because writing one's name and stamping one is a totally different set of action having different meanings. Stamping names is something you do by yourself as a statement of comfirmation while writting names in red in question is only done by others. I don't think any Korean would feel that uncomfortable(compaire to seeing his name written in red by someone else) writing his own name in red.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact I just came from a class of teens where one girl wrote down in red ink the name of her friend sitting next to her. I asked isnt that bad luck? They just laughed.

But I dont think the earlier analogy of playing in a graveyard is apt here. Many Koreans I speak with, young & old, have an abiding fear of ghosts. Intellectually they might dismiss the idea as superstition but some will not go anywhere near hilly countryside after dark. (Myself, I rather like the story of virgin spirits on the prowl for satisfaction.)
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Joe Thanks



Joined: 01 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj wrote:
It's basically one of those stupid Korean superstition. .


Actuall it's Chinese in origin. Like many things in old Korea - it was carried over from China.


Cheers,

Joe
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had some classes who have got upset about me writing in the whiteboard in red marker. I can't recall whether I was writing names as part of these lessons. Other classes haven't reacted at all.The ones that I remember complaining were older. (For me this means 12 or 13.) I'll have to pay more attention to whether these lessons include names.

That yellowish ink that girls sometimes use is a real annoyance - dificult to see especially with any glare. I had a student write an entire 3 page test with it. I kept having to move the paper around to see what she had written.
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buddy bradley



Joined: 24 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you. I will now make a point of writing the name of every person here in red ink on white, white paper.

Like satin on milk.
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indiercj



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Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley wrote:
Thank you. I will now make a point of writing the name of every person here in red ink on white, white paper.

Like satin on milk.


Remember, only REAL NAMES count. Wink
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nocturno culto



Joined: 27 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

buddy bradley that was beautiful.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

indiercj wrote:
buddy bradley wrote:
Thank you. I will now make a point of writing the name of every person here in red ink on white, white paper.

Like satin on milk.


Remember, only REAL NAMES count. Wink


One would think, but I've heard bloodcurdling screams coming from children whose English nicknames I've written on the board in red marker.
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