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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place
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 Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:42 am Post subject: |
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And secondly, when you idiots like the OP start a thread saying "When "No One" Is Looking: Whites Become More Racist" you are carrying on in the same way that you are complaining about being treated. Attacking people because they are white is a stupid and racist thing that you are on this very board to complain about. If you want to move forward, you have to stop crying like little girls and stop blaming people for your shortcomings or live life like a loser.
Do you think everyone lived a nice cushy life?
I hate people who complain about *beep* that happened so long ago.
No-one on this board had a hand in making things that way.
I am sure that there is no-one on this board that personally believes that enslaving the blacks, killing natives in our countries or anything else that our relatives may have done was a good thing.
That is the point that you want to hold on to.
So stop crying about it.
It is worse than the Koreans.
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Homer
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| The message board is predominantly whities, so of course a thread bashing whities wouldn't go over well. I fail to see why you bother with these threads. |
OK scottius...I will try and make it even clearer....
I was refering to the glaring double standard that exists on here...where it is ok to bash others but then it is impossible that we (whites) are racists ourselves...or it is acceptable to bash and is the most horrid offence if someone utters one small criticism of whites as a group...
All of this on this discussion board.
Now, I hope this clears things up for you because this is my last post in this thread....if it does not clear things up or if you choose to drive right by the point then so be it...cheers. |
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nateium
Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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How do you know the OP is a he? |
Good point
I guess you caught a poor unconscious hasty assumption on my part based on the character and interests of the OP's previous posts. I'll remember to be more careful next time  |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:05 am Post subject: |
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| anyway wrote: |
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Having read all 6 pages, I am reminded why I don't post here much anymore.
I am here to work, teach English and get paid. If someone learns to be less ignorant during their interaction(s) with me, so be it. Life is too short to bother ranting and raving about things that can't be changed by just talk.
I am black. I only "hate" those who give me reason to. So it's an individual's choice to act like a jackass. You can be raised to be a racist *beep* but it's up to the individual to act on those lessons. I honestly don't care. I'm a mutt. I'm labeled Black out of convenience and if people choose to use labels to assume and make asses of themselves then so be it. At least then I know I don't have to waste one breath much less one thought on them.
Let's face it, it is possible for any of us to be racist or to be the victim of racism. Sometimes it is out of our hands. What you do about it is what matters most. It seems to me that the herd mentality is alive and well on this planet and as long as that's the case, nothing will really truly change.
C'est la vie... |
Personally, I don't see much ranting and raving on this thread, especially when compared to others. What I do see is a true exchange of opinions, albeit wide-ranging and lacking true focus, which is the hallmark of these message boards.
It seems the OP has stated that people show their true face in the course of these discussions. They feel freer to say things they wouldn't normally say because they don't know who they are talking to. That reminds me of something I once heard from a black colleague. He said Midwestern racists were the worst type because they hid it so well; at least the Southerners make it clear from the beginning. Most white racists don't.
When conversations turn to the controversial or sensitive topics, many many people tend to hide their true feelings, take a politically correct stance, or adopt an avoidance strategy altogether. Look at any number of examples where talk makes a difference in behavior. The historic avoidance of talk about sex, AIDS, homophobia, mental illness, depression, suicide, etc....
"Things that can't be changed by just talk". If you don't mind, what are those things which can be changed by just talk? At least for me, talking, especially on text message boards, acts as some kind of mirror. I think the more talking the better, but that assumes there is listening as well. |
Forgive me if I don't see a great change happening because of some thread on a message board that spends most of it's time generalizing about Koreans. Everyone's a racist to some degree or another...wooo...shocking shocking news. And people only REALLY get offended when it affects them. That's human nature or self preservation or narcissism or whatever, I suppose....
I've been floating around here for 3 years and this type of thread pops up time and time again. The same things are said and the same things do not change. So yeah...anonymous comments on a message board to people you don't know and have no reason to be honest with is not exactly the type of format I envision epiphanies happening. I suppose I should have stated that "things can't be changed by idle talk"... |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| anyway wrote: |
The truly amazing thing about this thread is that the OP's assertions have been borne out numerous times by posts such as the last two by Jinju and Nateium.
Pardon me if I am wrong, but I don't remember either of them coming on the board to raise issues about posters playing the race card with generalizations against Koreans. Yet, given the slightest hint of something negative about whites, these deep thinkers will immediately cry foul when they are undoubtedly guilty of the same thing (which is implied in the OP).
Generalizations? Jinju has attacked several individual countries with the same kind of generalization. Why is he so bothered about it now?
Specific examples can be easily dismissed as isolated anecdotes or non-representative. Generalizations can be easily dismissed for similar reasons. You can't have your cake and eat it too. |
Here's the reason, jackass. I never started a thread where I complained about something and did the very same thing I was complaining about. Complaining about racism by being racist...the height of stupidity and hypocrisy, if you axe me. What am I guilty of, anyway? I must be because Im white? |
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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
Location: All over the place
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, the Op would best take his opinions and stick them where the sun doesn't shine. I feel bad for what happened in history to some people, but when I see wankers like this fella having a cry about it on here and doing the very same thing he is shedding a tear about, it pisses me off to no end. You give these people an inch and they take a mile. Sorry about what happened to your families before, but get over it and stop wasting our time crying about something that never happened to you.
Generalising about white racism was the thing that made me lose respect for you immediately. Sure, some whites, maybe a lot were racist in the past. But that's like me telling you that you are a spear chucker. Would that piss you off? I hope so because your generalisation does for me. Hopefully you can spare us your stupid generalisations in the future.
Go out and change things rather than subjecting us to this nonsense. |
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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:12 am Post subject: Re: When "No One" Is Looking: Whites Become More R |
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| Cognorati wrote: |
After the reading the shocking racism of the "Nigerians are Bad..." thread, I have a theory about what happens in Korea, especially by the level of racism spouted by certain "racial" groups.
I've noticed that without any external pressure or repercussions, and when certain people believe that a minority group is not present or able to influence, they become more racist: I think Korea allows working class and lower middle-class whites an opportunity to be more racist, to allow what they've been thinking to be aired publicly.
It's seems that whites mind Korean racism when they are actually forced to experience what any non-white minority experiences in a Western country. However, if whites are the recipients of racist privilege, well then, they don't mind racism over here at all.
And when it comes to racism that Koreans direct at certain groups (blacks), they do not disagree but actually empathize: so whites working in Korea don't mind racism or racist privilege, they just think it should be directed at certain parties. In effect, they resent any loss of status that they experience, but believe others should be treated appropriately (i.e.: should be subject to racism as it is only natural).
This is all very good to know as I, a black person, interact with whites in Korea. |
The above is true. What some people don't realize and/or don't recognize is that Blacks in America have been demonized and criminalized in media propaganda, from film to tv, to music videos; don't get me wrong many blacks help in perpetuating this stereotype. Unfortunately what's different is that most of these Blacks have checks written to them by white business men who produce the ideal in mass quantities.
In the past and when US forced their entry into many Asian nations either through participation in the market or through war...they also brought with them racist mentalities against Blacks.
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So...it's the fault of American white people that Asians also sometimes can have a racist mentality against black people? Am I reading that right?
Another poster mentioned how Koreans/Asians have learned to emulate "white" racism and further propel racism. So, are whites the cause and carrier of racism, and the others are just "copying" it? Seems pretty silly if that is the implicit idea here.
It might be easy to blame whites, as they do currently have the lions share of economic and political power (at this time in history), but they do not have a monopoly on racism. It would exist even without the evil white man, I'm afraid.
People often tend to group and divide along all sorts of perceived barriers and differences: ethnicity, race, location, language, economics, politics, religion, interests, fashion, ideals, etc. etc. This is not unique just to whites, and I really hope I'm just beating down a straw man and not something you seriously believe.
However, I do agree that whites are sometimes used to preferential treatment and may freak out when they are suddenly a minority and suddenly receive either perceived or real racism in their direction. If anything, it should give them greater compassion and empathy towards other groups and as such can be a good learning experience for them if they have never experienced such a thing. |
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bjonothan
Joined: 29 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think that this shows how far us whites have come and how far the others have to go. I am sure that every race would have treated other races pretty bad in history if given the chance, but we have been the only ones that have really made it disappear to a certain extent.
I come from Tasmania which is as backward as you will get in Australia and even there, they are more racially tolerant there than in a lot of places.
The OP looks like a retard sprouting off about racism when he himself is more racist judging by his post on here. It seems you are the one who needs a lesson on racism mate.
It's quite funny how it is perfectly ok to attack us whities, but when you say anything remotely wrong to the blacks they jump up and down.
I have never been pissed off more by any of the threads on here. It made my blood boil and if I saw the OP and it was a man, I would have probably felt like punching him for being such a tool.
You know the old saying about living in a glass house mate. Take that expression and remember it for the next time you decide to make racist remarks you wanker. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: When "No One" Is Looking: Whites Become More R |
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| Cognorati wrote: |
After the reading the shocking racism of the "Nigerians are Bad..." thread, I have a theory about what happens in Korea, especially by the level of racism spouted by certain "racial" groups.
I've noticed that without any external pressure or repercussions, and when certain people believe that a minority group is not present or able to influence, they become more racist: I think Korea allows working class and lower middle-class whites an opportunity to be more racist, to allow what they've been thinking to be aired publicly.
It's seems that whites mind Korean racism when they are actually forced to experience what any non-white minority experiences in a Western country. However, if whites are the recipients of racist privilege, well then, they don't mind racism over here at all.
And when it comes to racism that Koreans direct at certain groups (blacks), they do not disagree but actually empathize: so whites working in Korea don't mind racism or racist privilege, they just think it should be directed at certain parties. In effect, they resent any loss of status that they experience, but believe others should be treated appropriately (i.e.: should be subject to racism as it is only natural).
This is all very good to know as I, a black person, interact with whites in Korea. |
No one is saying in that thread that Nigerians are bad. The thread title is a p#ss take out of Koreans. The banning policy makes sense thus -
If police have evidence that one group (in fact a minority of one racial group, as most are males between say 20 - 30 yrs old) are commiting the majority of property thefts in certain bars - it makes practical and finacial sense to bar them. I doubt they'd bar old folks or women if they even wanted to go to Helios in the first place. A few 20 - 30 yr old Nigerian males might not get in to Helios and may not be theives. They will feel discriminated against. But looking at the big picture, if the thefts decrease significantly then the customers are not so at risk for being victims of crime and the bar doesn't lose custom.
And remember - Helios is the victim. It is the gangs of theives and pickpockets that are caussing the problem - NOT THE ESTABLISHMENTS THEY OPERATE THEIR CRIME RACKETS IN!!!!!
The above stands in my opinion for any group of any skin colour, it is basic common sense, not some acedemic pc bs that doesn't swing in the actual world outside office walls. |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
OK scottius...I will try and make it even clearer....
I was refering to the glaring double standard that exists on here...where it is ok to bash others but then it is impossible that we (whites) are racists ourselves...or it is acceptable to bash and is the most horrid offence if someone utters one small criticism of whites as a group...
All of this on this discussion board.
Now, I hope this clears things up for you because this is my last post in this thread....if it does not clear things up or if you choose to drive right by the point then so be it...cheers.
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You're a little slow, aren't you, son? At no point was I confused about your meaning. I was pointing out how glaringly obvious your post was (as they always are).
No shit whities on a predominantly white message board would be quick to get angry at anti-whitie threads. I think I'm going to post about how the sky is blue and most grass is green, in case there are still portions of the unwashed masses that don't already know that.
Oh, and if my responses got you to stop posting your monotonous drivel, well... then I did my job. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Kenny Kimchee wrote: |
I'm not anti-white - I just don't like rednecks.
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Ye, I'm not anti-white - I just hate these rednecks. |
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Craven Moorehead
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I just don't like anyone. |
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venus
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Craven Moorehead wrote: |
| I just don't like anyone. |
Do you like yourself? |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris Rock - Who's more racist? Youtube it. |
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Mix1
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