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Whistleblower

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 12:51 am Post subject: Korea Eager to Embrace Foreigners |
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A nice small article about how Korea is embracing us foreigners. I wonder how Korea intends to embrace us by using unimaginable Visa regulations etc to apply for an E2. I hope in the near future, Korea does improve it's Visa regulations for those foreigners that are here in the long-term.
What's your opinion?
Korea Eager to Embrace Foreigners
By Choo Kyu Ho
Commissioner of Korea Immigration Service
One of the most eye-catching changes in Seoul over the past few years has been the greater number of foreign cars ― many of them top-class ― that roll on its streets alongside domestic Hyundais and Kias. This is an indication not only of the greater wealth that South Koreans have achieved in the recent past, but also of the increasing openness of Korea's product market.
No less noticeable is the increasing presence of foreign people in all walks of our society. These days, the words "wiheom juui" on warning signs at construction sites are followed by curvy Southeast Asian scripts indecipherable to the Korean eye. Many Koreans, including my wife, are great fans of "Misuda," a talk show on KBS featuring young foreign ladies chatting about their experiences of living in Korea.
Most tellingly, evening TV shows these days include foreign characters; this, in my opinion, is the ultimate sign that foreigners have established themselves as a significant part of the Korean society.
This is a momentous change for Korea, long used to and even proud of the belief that it is a homogeneous nation. How are we to deal with this change? As foreigners continue to trickle in and gain ever-greater presence in our society, Koreans may easily erupt in xenophobia and shun foreigners lest they damage our homogeneity or treat them as second-class residents leeching off Korea's wealth.
We must resist any inclination to that effect and instead openly and actively embrace foreigners who choose to come to live, study, or work in Korea. There are economic and moral reasons to do so.
Immigration provides ready solutions to many of the challenges that the Korean economy faces today. In the rapidly ageing Korean society, ever smaller productive population will have to shoulder the burden of supporting ever greater retired population.
Immigrant workers can help diffuse this strain on the Korean workers. Immigration can also help Korean firms, which face steep competition, domestically and abroad, from cheaper products made in China and other developing countries.
Willing to work for less than their Korean counterparts, immigrant workers will help lower labor cost, thereby restoring the price competitiveness of Korean firms' products. Immigration can thus lead to a win-win outcome for Koreans and foreigners. In addition, if highly-skilled professionals can also be lured to come to work in Korea, the Korean society will benefit from a larger pool of talent to draw from as well.
As a liberal democracy, Korea has compelling moral reasons to embrace foreigners as well. Democracy rests on the twin pillars of freedom and equality of all men and women. Truly democratic freedom and equality are universal, and therefore, would apply no less to foreigners than to Koreans.
Interestingly enough, Korea traces its homogeneous lineage to the legendary demigod Dangun, who founded Ancient Korea with the vision of Hong-ik In-gan, i.e., bringing good for all humankind. It is in Korea's founding ideology to reach out to foreigners.
Of course, Korea cannot permit complete freedom of movement into the country right away. There will be issues to be addressed, as more and more foreigners enter Korea. Some of them are already surfacing. Some foreign brides married to Korean farmers have difficulty adjusting to a new life in an unfamiliar country, in some cases leading to dysfunctional families.
Many young men who come to teach English at private institutions have questionable qualifications and background. Low-income immigrant workers are beginning to congregate in cheap neighborhoods, raising the prospect of ghettoes.
Many foreign workers, especially illegal ones, work at places beyond the reach of the law enforcement and cannot receive due protection of their basic rights. It is my and my staff's job at the Korea Immigration Service to ensure that these and other destabilizing issues are adequately managed as Korea slowly but surely opens up to free human movement.
Today, free trade and free movement of capital are fueling an unprecedentedly prosperous globalized world. Well-guided free human movement is not only an economic imperative for the further prosperity of Korea and the world, but also a moral imperative that is in line with Korea's current democratic values and its ancient founding ideology.
Korea is at an important crossroad. By gradually but steadfastly opening up to free human movement, Korea will not only find further economic prosperity, but also emerge as a leader among the world's liberal democracies in an important political issue.
Choo Kyu-ho is Commissioner of Korea Immigration Service. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Whistleblower

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
Korea Eager To Be Seen Eager To Embrace Foreigners |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:13 am Post subject: |
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(This is the third time this has been posted in the last week or so, so it must be worth something.)
The key sentences, in my opinion:
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We must resist any inclination to that effect [react with xenophobia] and instead openly and actively embrace foreigners who choose to come to live, study, or work in Korea. There are economic and moral reasons to do so.
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Immigration can thus lead to a win-win outcome for Koreans and foreigners. In addition, if highly-skilled professionals can also be lured to come to work in Korea, the Korean society will benefit from a larger pool of talent to draw from as well.
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There will be issues to be addressed, as more and more foreigners enter Korea. Some of them are already surfacing. |
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It is my and my staff's job at the Korea Immigration Service to ensure that these and other destabilizing issues are adequately managed as Korea slowly but surely opens up to free human movement.
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Well-guided free human movement is not only an economic imperative for the further prosperity of Korea and the world, but also a moral imperative that is in line with Korea's current democratic values and its ancient founding ideology.
Korea is at an important crossroad. By gradually but steadfastly opening up to free human movement, Korea will not only find further economic prosperity, but also emerge as a leader among the world's liberal democracies in an important political issue. |
A thoughtful and responsible statement from a major player in foreigners' future here in Korea. It should be warmly welcomed. (Of course, on one of the other threads, the usual suspects couldn't get enough of Korea-bashing by focusing on what the Minister pointed out were possible problems.) |
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I-am-me

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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That was too funny!!!! |
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Vicissitude

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: Chef School
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Whistleblower

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:42 am Post subject: |
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Well, actually it shouldn't be locked as I was reporting an article that I read that had been published the same day. Please check the source for the date of publication:
11-13-2007 16:17
Korea Eager to Embrace Foreigners
I think the guy wanted to publish it again as foreigners have been getting a raw end of the deal with new E2 Visa regulations and he feels kind of guilty.
Nahhhh ... ofcourse he doesn't feel guilty. He wants more publicity to land him that political job. |
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agentX
Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Location: Jeolla province
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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Like I said in the last thread regarding this, I think he wanted to say more but couldn't/wouldn't. Probably for job security reasons.
He isn't gonna come out and tell it like is, especially on the wife-beating matter. Or the ghetto matter, or the immigrant slave-labor matter, or the...
you get the point.
Question: Does the Korean Immigration Service handle/have jurisdiction over migrants from North Korea? |
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Vicissitude

Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Location: Chef School
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: |
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Whistleblower wrote: |
Well, actually it shouldn't be locked as I was reporting an article that I read that had been published the same day. Please check the source for the date of publication:
11-13-2007 16:17
Korea Eager to Embrace Foreigners
I think the guy wanted to publish it again as foreigners have been getting a raw end of the deal with new E2 Visa regulations and he feels kind of guilty.
Nahhhh ... ofcourse he doesn't feel guilty. He wants more publicity to land him that political job. |
The Korea Times posted it, not him. He first posted the same article on the Immigration website. The Korea Times just changed the title so it looks/sounds a little better. He might not have anything to do with the paper dupicating his article on the immigration website. I see they chopped out the absurd statement about watching talk shows with foreigners in them. His experience with foreigners is obviously VERY limited. |
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mindmetoo
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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I dunno to start your thesis with:
One of the most eye-catching changes in Seoul over the past few years has been the greater number of foreign cars ― many of them top-class ― that roll on its streets alongside domestic Hyundais and Kias. This is an indication not only of the greater wealth that South Koreans have achieved in the recent past, but also of the increasing openness of Korea's product market.
It's a bit like saying "Americans are eating sweet and power chicken balls a lot these days. There's a new openness to Chinese!"
It's moronic and shallow. |
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Boodleheimer

Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Location: working undercover for the Man
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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some Koreans are probably more eager to embrace poisonous snakes. |
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vox

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Korea Eager to Embrace Foreigners |
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I think the people at the extreme ends of the classes probably do want to embrace foreigners and the ones that don't are in the middle classes (and middle-agers). I'm probably wrong, but it's what I see. Every official I encounter is super helpful and the poorest people are happy to have me when I volunteer.
All the people who attend the university anti-foreigner rallies or alter history to write songs like 'f*cking usa' are sheltered young leftists whose mommies are still purchasing their underwear for them, or older ajosshis projecting anger on us from the Russian hooker who wouldn't sleep with them at least not without jacking the price to where they couldn't boast about it over soju and samgyopsal afterward. These people are loud, but they're not in the majority. It's easier to criticize than build, but it also burns less energy to be positive than negative all the time and most Koreans, like most people everywhere, choose the former, whatever you think of their reasons for doing so.
EDIT: I don't think it follows that the stricter visa guidelines mean they don't like us. Most foreigners have been protesting, passively or otherwise for a long time, that these changes were needed. |
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billybrobby

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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"One of the most eye-catching changes in Seoul over the past few years has been the greater number of foreign cars ― many of them top-class ― that roll on its streets alongside domestic Hyundais and Kias. This is an indication not only of the greater wealth that South Koreans have achieved in the recent past, but also of the increasing openness of Korea's product market.
No less noticeable is the increasing presence of foreign people in all walks of our society."
What's absurd about this passage is that he mentions foreign cars and foreign people in the same breath. As if we are both just status symbols for Korea's growing influence. Like, "Hey! Look! We've got foreign cars! Foreign food! Foreign humans! So many interesting colors and smells!"
He does tug at my old liberal heartstring with this passage, though:
"As a liberal democracy, Korea has compelling moral reasons to embrace foreigners as well. Democracy rests on the twin pillars of freedom and equality of all men and women. Truly democratic freedom and equality are universal, and therefore, would apply no less to foreigners than to Koreans." |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think the comment about foreign cars was to highlight the fact the government has stopped automatically doing a tax audit on anyone who bought a foreign car. (People used to key foreign cars here, not so long ago.) |
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The_Eyeball_Kid

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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
I think the comment about foreign cars was to highlight the fact the government has stopped automatically doing a tax audit on anyone who bought a foreign car. (People used to key foreign cars here, not so long ago.) |
I also heard that you automatically get audited if you leave the country more than three times in a year. |
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