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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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lowpo
Joined: 01 Mar 2007
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 Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: Korean Foreign Teacher Recruiting Association blacklist? |
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It would be interesting on the reason they where blacklisted. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| No reasons are given. That's why one might need legal advice. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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Reasons are given in Korean, if you click on the country they are from.
Man, I wish I could read this one. Gonna ask the lady to translate it when she gets home. Hard to make it out by computer translator, but it sounds like the teacher's father had an accident, and she fought with them because she needed time off due to that. I'm really curious:
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1978년 11월17일생 캐나다 여강사입니다. 한국에서 2년 경력이 있으며 마산의 모 학원과
비자발급완료 및 편도항공권을 보내주어 7월13일 입국 예정이었으나 일방적으로 계약을
파기하고 현재 울산의 모 영어유치원과 진행중인 것으로 확인 하였습니다. (당사가 아직
도 학위 원본을 비록한 서류들을 보관하고 있습니다.)
이 강사는 입국예정일 하루 전 날에 부친이 교통사고를 당하여서 오랜기간동안 한국에 오
지 못할것처럼 말하면서 계약을 일방적으로 파기하고 연락도 두절되는등 학원과 리쿠르팅
회사에 시간적, 경제적 피해를 입혔음에도 불구하고 지난 주 말경 우연히 울산의 모 영어
유치원과 다시 비자관련 진행하고 있는 것을 확인 하였습니다.
본 사이트에 기재되어있는 법무부 불량강사 신고센터와 울산 출입국사무소에 이같은 사실
을 유선상 전달하였으나 새로운 비자번호는 발급될 것으로 보입니다. 캐나다 현지 영사관
에도 이 같은 사실을 알렸으나 어찌될진 의문입니다. 울산의 학원에서 마산의 학원에 기
존 비자를 취소 해주는 조건으로 항공료 위약금을 배상을 해주었나 봅니다.
이 강사와 5월28일 인터뷰를 시작으로 얼마나 많은 시간적, 육체적, 정신적, 그리고 금전
적인 손실을 받았음에도 우리 리쿠르터들은 어디서 손해배상을 받아야 하는 것인지......
아무튼, 이 강사가 무사히 입국을 한다해도 피해보상은 못받더라도 어떠한 방식으로든
제선에서 취할수있는 조치는 최대한 모두 할 예정입니다.
더불어, 이 무더위 속에서도 열심히 일하고계실 성실한 리쿠르터 분들이 아무쪼록 저와 같
은 피해를 입지 않으시길 바랍니다.
About 1978 November 17 lifetime Canada it is a lecturer. There was 2
year career from Korea and wool school and visa issuing completion of
Masan and it sent it gave and one way aviation volume and it was a
July 13th entry plan but it destroyed a contract unilaterally and
currently it confirmed that it is a wool English preschool of Ulsan
and in the process of advancing. (Headquarters of a party still the
degree original though it keeps one documents.)
This lecturer the father traffic accident at entry prearranged date
one day former day and five Ji a contract unilaterally and and like
without being able it talked it destroyed the back school where also
the liaison is stopped that with the wool English preschool of Ulsan
relation of the visa it is advancing accidentally again at the company
and li khwu lu thing hour, economic damage the mouth hyess the last
week end in spite of even in sound it confirmed to Korea during old
duration and.
At the mammary gland it delivered a such fact in the Ministry of
Justice defective lecturer hardship center which is recorded in the
site which it sees and Ulsan emigration and office, the new visa
number with the fact that it will issue. U who informs the fact where
the degree is same in the Canada local consulate cci it is a position
doubt which will become. From school of Ulsan in school of Masan the
flag the visa which dozes cancellation aviation lyo penalty to
compensate under the conditions which it does as a favor it tries.
How many many hour, the flesh, spirit and the money it is lost this
lecturer and a May 28th interview with start us li khwu lu to sprout
and the field from where it probably is must receive a
compensation...... The chart damage compensation where anyhow, this
lecturer enters safely it does not receive but the management which is
the possibility of taking from my line which it holds in what kind of
method it is the maximum all percentage plan.
It joins in, it works it is sincere li khwu lu it sprouts and from
also this sultriness inside eagerly and the minutes by all means the
writing and Gat do not put on a damage and not to be route they wish. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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What's up with this one... did he disappear with the money for the flight?
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위 자는 계약서에 사인까지 다해 놓고 flight ticket 지불한 상태에서 다른 학원에 취직되었
다고 일방적으로 통보하여 우리가 상당히 곤란을 겪는 자입니다.
계약서를 뭘로 아는지....
대체 한국을 돈버는 cash machine으로 아나 봅니다.
이런 강사는 절대 쓰지 맙시다. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like this teacher worked for a month and ran off, causing the school great distress. For all we know, the school jerked her around and she left:
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온지 일개월 동안 학교 방침을 전혀 따르지 않다 월급 한달치 받고 갑자기 사라졌슴.
항공료와 월급만 챙기고 갑자기 없어져 학원의 타격이 심각함.
마이크 2개도 챙겨 갔슴. 마이크를 훔쳐간 강사는 처음 봤슴.
출입국 관리소 신고해 놓은 상태 |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like yet another runner. It seems like this site is made up mostly of runners. Those people probably won't care to return to Korea anyway. The site is pretty useless, in all honesty:
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강사 생년월일: 1977.8.25
먼저 이런 Blacklist를 올리고 조회할 수 있는 싸이트가 있다는 것이 좋습니다.
작년에 무단도주한 강사입니다.
급여받은 다음날 새벽에 무단도주 한 강사입니다.
수업을 잘하고 못하고를 떠나 학사 일정 운영에 막대한 타격을 입었습니다.
이런 강사 안쓰시는게 좋을 것 같습니다. |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| The site is pretty useless, in all honesty: |
Speak for yourself. A teacher may be on the list and not even be aware of it. And if you had read my other link, you would have seen this:
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| Attempts to have explanations or rebuttals added or to have names removed have seemingly been met with silence. |
And some of the entries seem to be rather harsh. For example:
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| 나이는 30대 후반이나 40대 후반쯤으로 보이며 뚱뚱한 편입니다. |
My Korean isn't fluent, but aren't they saying she's fat?
And I think here they're saying, "Her husband is a rotten b@stard."
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| 남편도 형편없는 놈이지만 이 여자 강사 한국에 발 못 붙이게 해야합니다. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: Re: Korean Foreign Teacher Recruiting Association blacklist? |
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| Are you on the Korean Foreign Teacher Recruiting Association's blacklist? |
A poster over at Koreabridge got her name removed from the list by getting the Seoul Bar Association to call them and threaten a lawsuit. She reported that the lawyer at the SBA was adamant about her suing them, and he even said it wouldn't cost her anything.
No money needed to sue them? I think anyone on that list should march over to the SBA and get action started. EDIT: sorry, I just read the link, and realized it said the same thing as me. |
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thegadfly
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: |
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What if they deserve to be on the blacklist?
Just curious -- I know three of the folks on there, and the complaints are accurate (and none of the listings are from my current school). |
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thegadfly
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: |
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| ...although I must say I would be interested in proper translations of all the complaints -- I have tried to do my own translations as time permits and the whim strikes, but I've only struggled through the few folks I knew.... |
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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:28 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe we need to start a Korea Foreign Teacher Recruiting Association Blacklist blacklist. First on the blacklist, as far as I'm concerned, would be the Korea Foreign Teacher Recruiting Association Blacklist. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| thegadfly wrote: |
| What if they deserve to be on the blacklist?. |
The truth is NOT protection against defamation claims in Korea. Even if they deserve to be on the list, they can sue the site. |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| thegadfly wrote: |
| What if they deserve to be on the blacklist?. |
The truth is NOT protection against defamation claims in Korea. Even if they deserve to be on the list, they can sue the site. |
Not when the victim is a foreigner. I'm sure I must have read that somewhere. |
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