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De-Bunked or Barely Believed Conspiracy Theories

 
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: De-Bunked or Barely Believed Conspiracy Theories Reply with quote

This thread is about de-bunked or no-longer-believed conspiracy theories. It is NOT about JFK or 911 or the X-Files. If you bring them up you're a tool; you should have gone to another thread.

I'm interested in 'conspiracy theories' you've heard that have since been debunked or are so ridiculous that even conspiracy theorists never subscribed to them. Here are some of my experiences:

(1) I was in NYC shortly after 9/11 (maybe 9/17 or 9/18 ) and I'd picked up a hottie (one of the more attractive models on www.suicidegirls.com) and the next morning me, her dingo and her room mates were having a chat. One of them explained to me that she had a cold. Not only did she have a cold, but almost 50% of her friends also had colds. And this was because there were biological weapons on-board the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center a few days previously. We were all going to die from biological warfare shortly after. (Didn't happen Wink )

(2) Also in NYC a day or two before a chap I 'met' in McDonalds started talking to me (there was a LOT of random people talking to each other going on at the time in NY, it wasn't just crazies doing it). He asked whether I knew $1 stores. I replied that I certainly did and I loved them. He asked whether I had noticed that they had low ceilings. I replied that.. well.. I hadn't really noticed. He went on to inform me that the reason they had low ceilings was that there was an ARMY OF ARABS above each and every $1 store's ceiling, and they were going to unleash their army in the next few days. I was terrified, let me tell you.

(3) This was before Sept 11 but it kinda amused/surprised me. I was at Venice Beach in L.A. and there was a black man with a stall who asked if I knew why there was a pyramid with an eye above it on a $1 bill. I had a minute so I spoke to him (I expect a few people here have also seen this man). I listened to his spiel. His 'thing' was that the african-americans enslaved in the US back in the day was just biblical payback for when blacks enslaved the jews in the bible. AND that was why the pyramid was on the $1 bill. God wanted the American blacks to be enslaved, for a biblical crime. ("It SAYS it in the BIBLE 'You REAP what you SOW!'") And it was a black dude who told me this. I'm not sure if this is a conspiracy theory.. but I'd say it's something not believed by too many people.

I also had some funny Scientology experiences but they're not really conspiracy theories. Oh and an "ex-CIA" agent who taught me all about Jews sacrificing babies and ruling the world. (I was sat next to him for 3 days on a trans-USA-train trip and read a book he loaned me which was about jews drinking baby blood and so on. Unfortunately the lady behind me who I also talked to for a few hours was a Jewish MTV exec who asked what I was reading. It led to some awkwardness when I showed her. I never got the lifetime supply of free CDs she'd promised me a few hours before.)

Anyway, all off-topicness aside, do you have any conspiracy theories which have since been de-bunked, or better yet, current-event-conspiracy-theories which will have NO credence in a few hours/days/years?
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

does ninoy aquino count? he returned to the philippines and was shot dead before he stepped onto the tarmac. the gov't was put on trial for his murder. the gov't found the gov't innocent. eyewitnesses and photographs say otherwise.

i mean, the acused was found innocent. end of conspircy, right?

that munitions maufacturers drew the US in WW1? oops. that one has been proven.

that the maine, the ship that blew up to start the spanish-american was wasn't a victim of an act of war but rather a boiler blew up? oops, that one has been proven.

that there was no vietnamese navy presence the day of the attack that led to johnson geting war powers?

that major league baseball owners had a gentlemans agreement not to use black players for a long time?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the conspiracy to kill Lincoln is pretty much dead. Like the JFK assassination, many people didn't believe JWB acted alone (or didn't act within a small group of people). This message board aside, the JFK conspiracy is dying.

The moon hoax conspiracy I think is debunked beyond a few.

The cure for cancer has been found but hidden conspiracy (something I first heard in the 1970s) is reasonably dead, although it did come back a bit last year over DCA. Oddly, the DCA of the '80s was a thing called hydrazine sulfate. People were accusing the National Cancer Institute of sabotaging clinical trials. Congress had to step in and get the GAO to examine the NCI's research. Of course, no one hears about this ducky today.

Not many people (other than IGTG) believe there's a conspiracy of evil Jewish bankers, something Henry Ford believed in. Not many people today believe the US government is involved in shadowy plots to seize the guns of patriots like they did in the Clinton '90s.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is close enough:

There is an Aussie running loose in Auckland who swears up and down that the psychic center of the universe is in NW India and that Carl Sagan certified that it is the real thing.
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Funkdafied



Joined: 04 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This message board aside, the JFK conspiracy is dying.

I wouldn't put it like that. I think everyone pretty much KNOWS Oswald wasn't the only one firing shots that day. It's just that it appears that nothing can be done about it.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would say the conspiracy to kill Lincoln is pretty much dead.


That one was particularly popular with anti-Catholics.

http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know anything about the attempt on Reagan's life, and the connections that Hinckley's family had to Vice-President Bush? I recall hearing something about Hinckley's father being scheduled to meet with Bush for fundraising around the time of the assassination. And I remember the source as being fairly credible.

Then again, if Bush had been planning to take out Reagan, I doubt he would enlist a hit man with whom he had personal ties(even if that hit man was an MK-Ultra drone.) Probably just get a few of his oil buddies to toss in a million each and hire a top-drawer contract killer.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Earl Ray, the guy who assassinated Martin Luther King, seemed to be acting from a carefully prepared plan, seeing as how he had somehow gotten the cash together to fly all over the world after fleeing the USA. I think I recall hearing something about a bounty being put on King's head by some racist millionaires. Not neccessarly connected with high levels of government.
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Masta_Don



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone tell me about the Denver International Airport. I'm bored.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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I would say the conspiracy to kill Lincoln is pretty much dead.


That one was particularly popular with anti-Catholics.

http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html


Jesuits had a hand in murdering Lincoln.

All conspiracy "theories" are immediate targets for de-bunking & assault, as it always is something when the truth is known.

No rest for the wicked.
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deadman



Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: Suwon

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:

Not many people (other than IGTG) believe there's a conspiracy of evil Jewish bankers, something Henry Ford believed in. Not many people today believe the US government is involved in shadowy plots to seize the guns of patriots like they did in the Clinton '90s.


If you take the "Jewish" out of that, and change "evil" to "pathologically self-interested" you would have one of the more obviously true conspiracies.

However, that is a topic for another thread.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
I would say the conspiracy to kill Lincoln is pretty much dead.


That one was particularly popular with anti-Catholics.

http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html


Jesuits had a hand in murdering Lincoln.


Of course they did. *kindly smile* Now eat your pudding. Taste good, yes?
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
Quote:
I would say the conspiracy to kill Lincoln is pretty much dead.


That one was particularly popular with anti-Catholics.

http://www.reformation.org/lincoln.html


Oh geez. There truly is no sinkable rubber ducky.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Japan flooded Korea with cheap fans in preparation for an attack.
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