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DaeguKid
Joined: 09 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:42 am Post subject: Korea and immigration rules and DUI/DWI |
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A good buddy of mine who has been in Korea for almost 5 years has to go because he has a DUI on his record that happened a damn long time ago.
Korea is losing an incredible good teacher as well as a respected person in his community. He is loved by his students, their parents and his friends and co-workers.
What? Korean men don't have any DUI's?
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Corky
Joined: 06 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Do you mean he'll have to go? The new regulations are pending.
Anyway, that's too bad. It's exactly this kind of thing I've been thinking about. How do they assess past crimes? Is it simply just any crime, no matter how long ago, that automatically disqualifes a person? |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Screw you and your new rules Korea! |
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| DaeguKid wrote: |
A good buddy of mine who has been in Korea for almost 5 years has to go because he has a DUI on his record that happened a damn long time ago.
Korea is losing an incredible good teacher as well as a respected person in his community. He is loved by his students, their parents and his friends and co-workers.
What? Korean men don't have any DUI's?
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In my state, a first time DUI is not a criminal offense and will not show up on a criminal records check. |
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daz1979
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
Location: Gangwon-Do
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:16 am Post subject: |
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What's a DUI? Drinking offense? Surely that wouldn't be a problem would it?
I also have a friend who is sweating a bit. Although he says he has never been in serious trouble he was caught smoking joint 5 years ago and fears the worst if these laws are implemented. I think his days are numbered too, as mud seems to stick over here, especially where drugs are concerned. |
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joebj1178514
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: |
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aaight respek, you is beg to be differeant, aight. I can see dat.
And in DC, ain't there some sort of BAL threshold to combat accusations of DUI. They just can't simply cuff you up because you've had a beer, unless your BAL is higher than the legal limit. DC, should worry about their heroine and yay problem, not to mention PREMIER GEORGE BUSH. Last time I went to DC, dam 흑인's just kept on asking me if I could hold a dollar. Guess it was my fault for walking in the MCI Center (Verizon now)/Chinatown area.
And you got me with the crime and time, aiight respek. |
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rayabk
Joined: 02 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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My friend also has a DUI(Driving Under The Influence) and he is not sweating it. He is confident that it will not be a problem. That is IF the new rules will be enforced.
I am naive about this, but surely if your buddy is at a school where he is liked they may turn a blind eye to this. Also if it happened years ago surely a rep from the school would accompany him to immigration as a character witness. As I say I am naive about this. I know you would get away with it in Thailand. Just my tuppance worth. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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Can anyone say "witch hunt"? Whether or not he is a good teacher and is well liked, this is something that immigration officals will use (if it becomes law) to withold visas. I suppose they have a quota to fill so they can point to some numbers and claim that they were doing their jobs.
I feel sorry for your friend, but there's not much he can do if they want to hold this against him/her.
Taiwan is still on the horizon. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Why is everyone panicking over this?
Three words people - wait and see. |
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mj roach
Joined: 16 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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They are cracking down on Korean teachers with DUIs.
Korean teachers will have their pay cut and/or be fired according to the new regs.
What the K/teachers' union will say/do about it will be interesting to see.
So, they are going to treat 'foreigner' teachers the same as K/teachers.....
Isn't everyone happy not to be discriminated against for a change?
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| joebj1178514 wrote: |
aaight respek, you is beg to be differeant, aight. I can see dat.
And in DC, ain't there some sort of BAL threshold to combat accusations of DUI. They just can't simply cuff you up because you've had a beer, unless your BAL is higher than the legal limit. DC, should worry about their heroine and yay problem, not to mention PREMIER GEORGE BUSH. Last time I went to DC, dam 흑인's just kept on asking me if I could hold a dollar. Guess it was my fault for walking in the MCI Center (Verizon now)/Chinatown area.
And you got me with the crime and time, aiight respek. |
You'd think that it would be illegal, but I read about the "zero tolerance" thing in DC last week on the news. It's real, and insane.
http://www.dui.com/washington-dc
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| DUI applies to a person having a blood alcohol concentration of .07 percent The city council in the District of Columbia voted to increase the blood alcohol level at which an individual is presumed guilty of drunk driving. DC has had essentially no limit in the past, meaning arrests could -- and have -- taken place with blood alcohol readings of 0.00. The council's legislation raises that to 0.05, much lower than the 0.08 prevalent in the rest of the country. |
So I just did more research, and it seems this was done away with 2005, but I don't understand why people are still being arrested for having 1 drink (or less) in D.C. as I read last week on the news....I don't have that link, or time to find it now.
http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/07/718.asp
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DC Council Raises Legal Blood Alcohol Limit to .05
Washington, DC raises the drunk driving standard from 0.0 to 0.05.
DC City CouncilThe city council in the District of Columbia voted 9-3 Tuesday to increase the blood alcohol level at which an individual is presumed guilty of drunk driving. DC has had essentially no limit in the past, meaning arrests could -- and have -- taken place with blood alcohol readings of 0.00. The council's legislation raises that to 0.05, much lower than the 0.08 prevalent in the rest of the country. (View text of legislation, 41k PDF format).
The council acted after a series of embarrassing articles in The Washington Post documented cases where individuals were jailed for drunk driving despite blood alcohol readings of 0.00 or 0.03 in breath tests. Officers citing a "zero tolerance" policy would arrest anyone who admitted to having just one drink before driving. These motorists would then be offered a clean record if they paid a $400 "counseling fee." Failure to pay would result in the city Department of Motor Vehicles suspending their driver's license, despite the lack of any criminal conviction. The arrest alone has affected the jobs of many residents who need a clean record to maintain security clearances. It took five months and $2000 in legal fees before Debra Bolton, 45, cleared her name after she was arrested for drunk driving with a blood alcohol level of just 0.03. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| joebj1178514 wrote: |
| Koreans take the teaching profession very seriously because children are thought of as leaders of tomorrow |
Pfft. If that were true, they wouldn't hire so many foreign losers to "teach" their leaders of tomorrow between drinking binges and visits to hooker hill. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| joebj1178514 wrote: |
| Koreans take the teaching profession very seriously because children are thought of as leaders of tomorrow |
Pfft. If that were true, they wouldn't hire so many foreign losers to "teach" their leaders of tomorrow between drinking binges and visits to hooker hill. |
I appreciate your cynical-yet-true outlook |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree with Hanson, wait and see. Panicing does nothing but cause rumors to fly around. |
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GreenlightmeansGO
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Criminal check arrived today. I'm clear. Was a little worried about a DUI being on there.
These rules are gonna blow (if the speculation becomes reality). |
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