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atomic42



Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Location: Gimhae

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Help America! Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdV7YsM-N50
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ron Paul has the best campaign theme song in the race.

This has set a new bar.
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thepeel



Joined: 08 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Ron Paul thing really is amazing. It is a self-organizing, mass campaign to reject the status quo.

From the comments of that video:
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Incredible.

The voice of the citizens is becoming harder and harder to ignore. Tucker was right, this is more than just a campaign, it's a nationwide movement.


Indeed. While he will lose this time, this is just the start. Information is no longer under tight control. Discourse is no longer tightly, and narrowly defined.
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atomic42



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepeel wrote:
Indeed. While he will lose this time, this is just the start. Information is no longer under tight control. Discourse is no longer tightly, and narrowly defined.


That's precisely why the politicos and CEOs are working to replace the internet with W2, the web has weakened their control on the flow of the info like never before. Few are buying what they're selling, and are finally thinking for themselves and organizing.


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thepeel



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am so impressed by that. The production value of the video is excellent, and the lyrics smart and sharp. The track is catchy and flows damn nice.

Ron Paul inspires people.
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loose_ends



Joined: 23 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i wonder if ron paul smokes blunts
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would if I were him.



...I mean, if we had blunts in the Korea. And the proper filling in the Korea. Evil or Very Mad
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he is straight-edge. I don't think he takes alcohol, actually.
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepeel wrote:
I think he is straight-edge. I don't think he takes alcohol, actually.


perhaps he just drinks it.
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thepeel



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh, I'm talking like a Singaporean lah.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For twelve years you've been asking "Who is John Galt?"

This is John Galt speaking. I'm the man who's taken away your victims
and thus destroyed your world. You've heard it said that this is an age of
moral crisis and that Man's sins are destroying the world. But your chief
virtue has been sacrifice, and you've demanded more sacrifices at every
disaster. You've sacrificed justice to mercy and happiness to duty. So
why should you be afraid of the world around you?

Your world is only the product of your sacrifices. While you were
dragging the men who made your happiness possible to your sacrificial
altars, I beat you to it. I reached them first and told them about the
game you were playing and where it would take them. I explained the
consequences of your 'brother-love' morality, which they had been too
innocently generous to understand. You won't find them now, when you
need them more than ever.

We're on strike against your creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded
duties. If you want to know how I made them quit, I told them exactly
what I'm telling you tonight. I taught them the morality of Reason -- that
it was right to pursue one's own happiness as one's principal goal in life. I
don't consider the pleasure of others my goal in life, nor do I consider
my pleasure the goal of anyone else's life.

I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce. I ask for
nothing more or nothing less than what I earn. That is justice. I don't
force anyone to trade with me; I only trade for mutual benefit. Force is
the great evil that has no place in a rational world. One may never force
another human to act against his/her judgment. If you deny a man's
right to Reason, you must also deny your right to your own judgment.
Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force, by men
who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear and force
are more practical.

You've allowed such men to occupy positions of power in your world by
preaching that all men are evil from the moment they're born. When men
believe this, they see nothing wrong in acting in any way they please.
The name of this absurdity is 'original sin'. That's inmpossible. That which
is outside the possibility of choice is also outside the province of morality.
To call sin that which is outside man's choice is a mockery of justice. To
say that men are born with a free will but with a tendency toward evil is
ridiculous. If the tendency is one of choice, it doesn't come at birth. If it
is not a tendency of choice, then man's will is not free.

And then there's your 'brother-love' morality. Why is it moral to serve
others, but not yourself? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when
experienced by others, but not by you? Why is it immoral to produce
something of value and keep it for yourself, when it is moral for others
who haven't earned it to accept it? If it's virtuous to give, isn't it then
selfish to take?

Your acceptance of the code of selflessness has made you fear the man
who has a dollar less than you because it makes you feel that that dollar
is rightfully his. You hate the man with a dollar more than you because
the dollar he's keeping is rightfully yours. Your code has made it
impossible to know when to give and when to grab.

You know that you can't give away everything and starve yourself.
You've forced yourselves to live with undeserved, irrational guilt. Is it
ever proper to help another man? No, if he demands it as his right or as
a duty that you owe him. Yes, if it's your own free choice based on your
judgment of the value of that person and his struggle. This country
wasn't built by men who sought handouts. In its brilliant youth, this
country showed the rest of the world what greatness was possible to Man
and what happiness is possible on Earth.

Then it began apologizing for its greatness and began giving away its
wealth, feeling guilty for having produced more than ikts neighbors.
Twelve years ago, I saw what was wrong with the world and where the
battle for Life had to be fought. I saw that the enemy was an inverted
morality and that my acceptance of that morality was its only power. I
was the first of the men who refused to give up the pursuit of his own
happiness in order to serve others.

To those of you who retain some remnant of dignity and the will to live
your lives for yourselves, you have the chance to make the same choice.
Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or
the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good
and helps the evil.

If you've understood what I've said, stop supporting your destroyers.
Don't accept their philosophy. Your destroyers hold you by means of
your endurance, your generosity, your innocence, and your love. Don't
exhaust yourself to help build the kind of world that you see around you
now. In the name of the best within you, don't sacrifice the world to those
who will take away your happiness for it.



http://www.working-minds.com/galtmini.htm
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Help America! Reply with quote

atomic42 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdV7YsM-N50


Atomic42 (who is not from the US wrote):

Quote:
Help America


But before he also wrote:

Quote:
but I couldn't really give a toss about America ...


http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1366789&highlight=#1366789


Yep we ought to believe you. Rolling Eyes
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atomic42



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't stand it when the good doc gets some great press while the logical laugh at your neocon windbags, I see.

Don't pretend you know anything about me or where I'm from, nutter. And get back on the meds asap, k? Tyvm. Rolling Eyes
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atomic42 wrote:
Can't stand it when the good doc gets some great press while the logical laugh at your neocon windbags, I see.

Don't pretend you know anything about me or where I'm from, nutter. And get back on the meds asap, k? Tyvm. Rolling Eyes


Well we do know that you don't care about the US and you are a 9-11 conspiracy theorist which makes you a a whack job. So why ought anyone who cares about the US listen to you?
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



As a decorated USAF veteran and a successful businessman employing over one hundred people, I take great exception to your comment that Ron Paul supporters are "a bunch of terrorists".

Because such comments are inexcusable, I am joining Marine Stephen
Dupont (retired) in his boycott of your program and the following
sponsors of your show (whom I intend to notify):

http://www.lilly.com/contact.html
http://www.ustrust.com/contact/
http://newscenter.verizon.com/media-contacts/#business
http://www.geico.com/newsite/about_geico/contact_us/
http://automobiles.honda.com/informa...relations.aspx
http://www.lunesta.com/contact/contact.html
http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/sit...upportcontacts

http://www.schwabbank.com/contactUs.do
http://www.josbank.com/customer_service_main.tem
https://secure.bayer.com/bayer/contact.aspx?lang=en
http://www10.americanexpress.com/sif...1,24679,00.asp
http://www.llbean.com/customerService/index.html
http://www.tdameritrade.com/contact.html
https://www.progressive.com/contact-us.aspx
http://www.americaspower.org/Contact-Us
http://www.lincoln.com/help/contact_us.asp
http://www.farmers.com/FarmComm/WebS...ontact_us.html
http://www.walgreens.com/contactus/forms.jsp

Words cannot express my outrage!

On December 16th, the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, I will be maxing out the balance of my $2,300 donation cap to Ron Paul's campaign.

I encourage all to e-mail similar messages to Beck and his program's sponsors.

"In questions of powers, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution."

Thomas Jefferson - The Kentucky Resolutions of 1798
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