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mehmeh
Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea
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 Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:04 am Post subject: Who has the oil? |
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I'm sure there has already been a thread dedicated to a map like this but I'm too lazy to look.
http://www.civicactions.com/sites/home2.civicactions.net/files/map01_1024.jpg
Anyway, I was surprised to see how much oil the US actually has in known reserves. From the way Canadians on this board talk, you'd think USA-ians are lining up to suckle from their wet, oily, hydrocarbonated tit due to a lack of the stuff in their own country. However, it just goes to show the true American way...let others do the dirty work, we'll keep our national parks relatively pristine and groundwater more-or-less unpolluted (until we suck it dry), thank you.
Disclaimer: I'm no fan of American oil consumption and truly feel we hit a tipping point...Canadians are ok too. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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First, some of those numbers are wrong. Kuwait, for example, has about half what that graphic claims. The rest of the Middle East is in similar straights. (See official proven reserve rises circa 1980's.)
Saudi Arabias reserves are also about half what they claim, most likely. They have been quoted as saying they can pump at current rates for another 30 - 40 years. While their claims are for 260,000,000,000 barrels, the math on that equates to 131,000,000,000. Most serious analysts looking at what the real world reserves are vs. claimed peg Saudi reserves at 50 top 70 percent of what they claim. I think the number is close to 50%, as the equation suggests. ((9mb/d x 356.25 days)x 40yrs = 131,490,000,000)
Second, that only shows conventional oil. The "oil" Canadians are all excited about is actually not oil, but bitumen, which is a tar-like substance. There are, at current estimates, around 175,000,000,000 barrels of recoverable oil equivalent in the Canadian tar sands.
Third, the US consumes around 20,000,000 a day, but can only produce about 5,000,000 a day. Canada is the US's biggest oil supplier outside itself. Oh, and US production is falling and has been since 1970. (There was a spike when they started pumping Prudhoe Bay.) Canadian production of crude oil is also falling. Total production is roughly flat right now due to tar sands production slowly rising.
Fourth, yes, the Peak Oil thread makes your post redundant. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| mehmeh wrote: |
| we'll keep our national parks relatively pristine |
Actually the Bush Administration has one of the most pitiful domestic environmental records of modern times.
The environmental LIES of George W. Bush
Suppressed or falsified science documented by Waxman Report and New York Times
Bush Lie: Oil Drilling
Halliburton (headed formerly by Vice President Cheney) uses an environmentally damaging drilling technique called hydraulic fracturing that injects benzene and other carcinogens into the ground. In an attempt to cover up potential ground water contamination from this practice, the EPA changed data in a report to Congress. The report in its original form showed that there was real potential for contamination, but at the request of the oil industry the data were changed to show no potential for contamination. The White House also deleted discussion of the environmental hazards of hydraulic drilling from the White House National Energy Policy document.
Bush Lie: Wetlands
Soon after Bush took office the U.S Army Corps of Engineers changed its policy from protecting wetlands to one of destroying wetlands. U.S. Fish and Wildlife scientists concluded that proposed rule changes on wetlands would lead to significant environmental damage and that the Corps� own data supported this conclusion. Interior Secretary Norton suppressed this information by failing to present the Fish and Wildlife scientists� report to the Corps. The proposed harmful rules were enacted.
Bush Lie: Yellowstone
A report written by Park staff detailing several ongoing environmental concerns at the Park was edited to remove any mention of these concerns. The Bush Interior Department used the altered report to argue that Yellowstone should be removed from a list of parks in danger and in need of international attention. The United Nations World Heritage Committee removed Yellowstone from the list based on the bogus report.
http://ventana.sierraclub.org/back_issues/0306/bush_lies.shtml
Bush's Energy Policy Lives Where the Deer and the Antelope Play
December 14, 2003
Upper Green valley:In the past three years, more than 575 wells have been drilled to tap two rich deposits, and at least 1,500 more are likely to follow.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9803E5DF133CF937A25751C1A9659C8B63
Bush Allows Drilling Leases Near Dinosaur Monument
WASHINGTON, DC, February 12, 2004 (ENS) - During the next week the U.S. Bureau of Land Management (BLM) plans to auction 56 oil and gas leases on federal lands surrounding Dinosaur National Monument in Colorado. Some of the sites are within a mile of the monument and the decision has outraged environmentalists, former Park Service officials, and many local citizens.
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/feb2004/2004-02-12-10.asp
Approval of Park Drilling Angers Environmentalists
November 22, 2002
The Bush administration has approved the drilling of two new natural gas wells in this national park, which lies along the nation's longest stretch of undeveloped beach.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A0CEFD61539F931A15752C1A9649C8B63&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Organizations/N/National%20Park%20Service
Bush Administration and the ANWR
The Bush administration is once again pushing for oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. Sure, this spot of land is one of the most remote areas of earth, but it is also one of the increasingly few pristine wildernesses. Nothing in the name "wildlife refuge" implies that it is being set aside to be used as oil. Dick Cheney was quoted as saying '"we are at the mercy of international oil prices" because "we've taken large chunks of this country and put it off-limits to any kind of exploration or development"' (newsweek sept 20th 2004).
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/koem0006/home/005406.html
More pollution at national parks promised by Bush drilling juggernaut
January 28, 2005: The energy industry has gotten the go-ahead to construct 50,000 new natural gas wells in southeastern Montana and northeastern Wyoming -- and there are no regulations on air pollution built into the contract. The Bureau of Land Management approved the deal despite grave warnings from environmentalists and government scientists.
http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/wildlife_parks.asp |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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The saddest part is, all that drilling will give the US no more than months, maybe a handful of years, of energy. For comparison, the "giant" (  ) field trumpeted recently in Brazil? That 5 to 8 billion barrel load of gas and oil? It equates to about 3 months of world energy use. 8,000,000,000 BOE/86,000,000 BOE = 93.023 days of energy.
They drill while the world burns. |
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