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ABC KID



Joined: 14 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Taking babies on airplanes... Reply with quote

Hi,

Quite a lot of posters here seem to have babies. As some regular readers will be aware, My wife has also had a baby recently Very Happy

Obviously we want to show our little princess to my family back home but we want to be realistic about it. How old were other poster's babies when you took them on an airplane for the first time? (weeks/months/a year old?) I worry about two things - Our baby crying too much on the plane and the possibility of some permanent damage to her ears.

My possibilities are probably to take her at three and a half months or about nine months old.

How old was your baby the first time he/she visited your country and did you get any advice from the doctor before flying?

Any info will be gratefully received...
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seoulman1



Joined: 02 Feb 2007
Location: Jamsil

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://pregnancy.about.com/od/newbornbabies/a/babyairplane.htm
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rayabk



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last week I flew from Bangkok to Hong Kong. I had a 2 hour stop over in Hong Kong and then I flew to Seoul. My daughter never cried once she slept most of the time. 6 months old. However the wife would'nt shut her mouth Smile. Don't sweat mate you will be OK and other passngers will/should understand.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our daughter took her first flight at about 3 months. She is a regular traveller and has flown about 30,000 miles including 2 transpacific flights and numerous flights to SE Asia and the Philippines.

Infants travel for 10% of the regular priced ticket on international fights so it is pretty cheap to travel. Lots of airlines let them travel free on domestic flights as well.

Airlines will give you a travel pack for your baby (diapers, bum cream, wet-wipes, etc). You can also request a sky crib. It is a little basket/crib that attaches to the bulkhead in front of you so she can sleep in peace and your lap will be free to eat or read or watch the movie.

Babies love to fly and usually don't cry except on landing. To solve this, let them drink during the landing to equalize pressure on the ears so there is no discomfort. They often sleep for most of the flight (because of the motion of the plane).

Don't worry. Have a good trip home to show your princess to the family.
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indytrucks



Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Our daughter took her first flight at about 3 months. She is a regular traveller and has flown about 30,000 miles including 2 transpacific flights and numerous flights to SE Asia and the Philippines.

Infants travel for 10% of the regular priced ticket on international fights so it is pretty cheap to travel. Lots of airlines let them travel free on domestic flights as well.

Airlines will give you a travel pack for your baby (diapers, bum cream, wet-wipes, etc). You can also request a sky crib. It is a little basket/crib that attaches to the bulkhead in front of you so she can sleep in peace and your lap will be free to eat or read or watch the movie.

Babies love to fly and usually don't cry except on landing. To solve this, let them drink during the landing to equalize pressure on the ears so there is no discomfort. They often sleep for most of the flight (because of the motion of the plane).

Don't worry. Have a good trip home to show your princess to the family.


This is all sound advice. Ttompatz has proven himself a champ yet again.

We took our daughter all the way to South Africa when she was about 6 months. Like TP has said, all the above strategies came into play. Of course, the temperment of your baby plays a huge part in the proceedings.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm..babies don't cry on airplanes. I don't buy that. Maybe yours doesn't, but all the planes I've been on which had a family with a small baby did. Personally I think it is rude to the other people on the plane and cruel to the child.
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Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Babies love to fly and usually don't cry except on landing.

You're usually spot on with your advice, but that was a heaping load of shit. Pardon my French. Maybe YOUR baby is like that, but certainly not in general.

If it's true, then 90% (rough estimate) of the babies sharing a plane with me have loved it so much they were sharing their screams of joy with me for more than half the flight (they take turns).
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
Personally I think it is rude to the other people on the plane and cruel to the child.


I've been on this board for awhile now, but that has to be one of the biggest piles of $hit I've read here. You're saying that taking a baby to visit grandparents, etc... in another country is rude to other passengers? Cruel? I've never done this, but your comment deserves it: STFU.
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betchay



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I flew with my son to the US last year when he was 5 months old. We had a layover at Narita Airport for three hours. There's a separate diaper changing room for mom's with babies at the women's comfort room of the airport.

The only time my son cried was during the take-off at Incheon Airport. After that he was fine. He never cried in all the other flights that we took (California-Ohio, Ohio-New York).

When my son was 10 months old, we traveled to the Philippines and he enjoyed it that he never slept in both flights.

Bring a book or your daughter's favorite toys. On our trip to the US, I brought a blanket that I laid down near the galley so he could crawl and play. Most passengers would understand if your daughter cries. Some of the passengers on our flight even volunteered assistance (mostly Japanese on our way to the US) and played with my son. I think I was lucky I and my son didn't have any unpleasant experience on our flights.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Letty never cries when she flies and she's been flying since she was 4 months old. Granted we've only flown to Hong Kong and Taiwan so far but she will be coming to NYC and the UK with me next year when I go for a conference in April and to go home in the Summer.

I took the sound advice of letting her nurse when we took off and landed and that really did the trick. Now that she is older and not nursing, I just make sure she is entertained and distracted by story books and telling her to look out of the window. She is lucky that she hasn't inherited my travel sickness.

I don't have a lot of other advice, other than always be over-prepared when flying with an infant and young children. I always take TWO extra sets of clothes and everything with me - just in case.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Airlines will give you a travel pack for your baby (diapers, bum cream, wet-wipes, etc).

Not Air Canada - they really suck.

ttompatz wrote:
You can also request a sky crib.

yes, but there is a weight restriction. Be sure that you child is not over 10 kg.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:
Personally I think it is rude to the other people on the plane and cruel to the child.


I've been on this board for awhile now, but that has to be one of the biggest piles of $hit I've read here. You're saying that taking a baby to visit grandparents, etc... in another country is rude to other passengers? Cruel? I've never done this, but your comment deserves it: STFU.


Thanks for the flame, how mature of you.

Personally being trapped in a tin can with screaming babies is not fun. The only bright side is you can put on your earphones and crank them up or bring earplugs.

Yes, I personally think it's cruel and I'm entitled to my opinion. Given the fact the air pressure is changing (as someone pointed out mostly on take off and landing) their ears are likely under a great deal of pain. Other then crying, how else can we tell how much it hurts? Well we can't because at that age they can't communicate other then crying (or can very little).
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Typhoon



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only time my daughter cried on our trip to Canada was when the flight attendant dropped a fork on her and work her up. Most babies (under a year) seem to sleep pretty well on planes from what I have experienced and know. I think the crying and problems come at 1 year and older (terrible 2s).
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milwaukiedave wrote:
Hanson wrote:
Milwaukiedave wrote:
Personally I think it is rude to the other people on the plane and cruel to the child.


I've been on this board for awhile now, but that has to be one of the biggest piles of $hit I've read here. You're saying that taking a baby to visit grandparents, etc... in another country is rude to other passengers? Cruel? I've never done this, but your comment deserves it: STFU.


Thanks for the flame, how mature of you.

Personally being trapped in a tin can with screaming babies is not fun. The only bright side is you can put on your earphones and crank them up or bring earplugs.

Yes, I personally think it's cruel and I'm entitled to my opinion. Given the fact the air pressure is changing (as someone pointed out mostly on take off and landing) their ears are likely under a great deal of pain. Other then crying, how else can we tell how much it hurts? Well we can't because at that age they can't communicate other then crying (or can very little).


You insulted every parent who has ever taken their baby on a flight. It's your opinion and you're certainly entitled to it, but you also have to be ready to be called on your bull$hit opinions.

I'd bet a month's salary that if you ever have children, you'll take them on a flight before their 2nd birthday.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hanson,

If you take what I'm saying so personally, maybe you ought to go get your head examined. Yes, I personally think it is cruel, however I did certainly not mean cruel like killing someone (which is how you are percieving it) but more like causing temporary pain. Considering their ear canals and head are still growing and maturing there is no way to know for sure how much pain or stress it causes a baby to fly.

Whether or not I would take a baby on a flight before he/she was 2 years old, I don't know if I would.
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