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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lunatic fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
We can hear you coming
We know what you're after
We're wise to you this time
We won't let you kill the laughter.

Lunatic fringe
In the twilight's last gleaming
This is open season
But you won't get too far
We know you've got to blame someone
For your own confusion
But we're on guard this time
Against your final solution

We can hear you coming
(We can hear you coming)
No you're not going to win this time
We can hear the footsteps
(We can hear the footsteps)
Way out along the walkway
Lunatic fringe
We know you're out there
But in these new dark ages
There will still be light

An eye for an eye;
Well before you go under...
Can you feel the resistance?
Can you feel the thunder?


Lunatic Fringe from the Red Rider LP "As Far As Siam
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Media gets p0wned by Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkfg0PixtnU&feature=related
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Media gets p0wned by Ron Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nkfg0PixtnU&feature=related


You gonna vote for him? Laughing
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
You gonna vote for him? Laughing


Who wants to know?
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province

PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FOX news: We distort, you comply.

As far as their viewership ratings go, one of the reason why FOX has so many viewers is because the nursing homes put the old folks in bed TV's to FOX because the network has a lot of flashy colors. So it helps to distract the senile.
MSNBC is not carried on as many cable packages as FOX. If both were equally covered, FOX's ratings dominance may be lessened.

FOX anchors habitually lie and make outlandish statements for ratings. It's so bad even their ticker is affected. Last summer, Matt Groening ran a Simpson's episode about FOX News. The network complained about the use of the ticker in the episode. They told him that viewers would confuse the cartoon ticker with real FOX news. That's right; they think their viewers are really that stupid.
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agentX wrote:
FOX news: We distort, you comply.

As far as their viewership ratings go, one of the reason why FOX has so many viewers is because the nursing homes put the old folks in bed TV's to FOX because the network has a lot of flashy colors. So it helps to distract the senile.
MSNBC is not carried on as many cable packages as FOX. If both were equally covered, FOX's ratings dominance may be lessened.

FOX anchors habitually lie and make outlandish statements for ratings. It's so bad even their ticker is affected. Last summer, Matt Groening ran a Simpson's episode about FOX News. The network complained about the use of the ticker in the episode. They told him that viewers would confuse the cartoon ticker with real FOX news. That's right; they think their viewers are really that stupid.


I don't really agree with Keith Olbermann a whole lot but he is spot on in regards to FOX News.

http://digg.com/videos/educational/Keith_Olbermann_Neuters_Bill_O_Reilly_2

Bill O'Reilly, the Bush apologizing blowhard, should be ashamed of himself; he is not a conservative.

Edit: Even the conservitives on this board don't like FOX news. Should tell you something about that network's future.


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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish TV and newspapers would cut out editorials altogether. I agree with the OP's thread title, We Report, You Decide. I despise the Globe and Mail because, although they do a lot of good original reporting, 50 to 60% percent of the newspaper is editorials. That's not news.
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Funkdafied



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox Noise is a neocon propaganda machine, nothing more nothing less, it certainly is nothing like a serious news channel.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
You gonna vote for him? Laughing


Who wants to know?



since you are hyping him and all.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funkdafied wrote:
Fox Noise is a neocon propaganda machine, nothing more nothing less, it certainly is nothing like a serious news channel.


most of their news comes off the wires. Fox news is just the reverse of the Nation or the Guardian.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
igotthisguitar wrote:
Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
You gonna vote for him? Laughing


Who wants to know?


since you are hyping him and all.


That's a WHY response.

The question was "WHO"?
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Funkdafied wrote:
Fox Noise is a neocon propaganda machine, nothing more nothing less, it certainly is nothing like a serious news channel.


most of their news comes off the wires. Fox news is just the reverse of the Nation or the Guardian.


Is that supposed to be a defense? The Guardian has some decent articles sometimes, but the Nation is a pile of arch-leftist shrill.
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Funkdafied



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thier news comes off the wires, that part is fine, it's then that the spin gets added, and that's the problem.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:

Is that supposed to be a defense? The Guardian has some decent articles sometimes, but the Nation is a pile of arch-leftist shrill.


I read The Nation as often as I can find it. I am not on the left, but I can appreciate the concern for humanity that oozes from their pages, even if I disagree with how to fix the problems. Also, The Nation has been leading the fight against Blackwater, which gives them huge ups in my eyes.

I think the Guardian is the Left equivalent of Fox News. All distortion. Apparently their soccer coverage is decent.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dr. Ron Who?

Paul Expects Over $12M In 4th Quarter
By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Republican Ron Paul said Sunday his upstart presidential campaign is on track to raise more than $12 million this quarter, boldly predicting the Iowa polls "are going to continue to shift" once he's finished spending it all. Idea

http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/pl/050907ronpaul
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Speaking on CNN's "Late Edition," Paul said he had raised roughly $10.4 million so far in the quarter beginning Oct. 1, an amount that is already double the $5.2 million he pulled in during the third quarter. A big online fundraising effort planned for Dec. 16 could push the fourth quarter's total higher by several million, he said.

"We are going to be way over our goal of $12 million," said the 10-term Texas congressman. "And, I mean, at this rate, it could be, you know, maybe $14 million or $15 million. It just is astounding."

"People are ready for some changes," Paul said. "It really tells me that although I had a great deal of concerns about the country, the American people were equally concerned and they are willing to put their money with a candidate who is willing to state these positions, all of these concerns, whether it is the foreign policy and coming home, or the irresponsible spending here."

Paul, a former Libertarian who stands apart from the other GOP presidential contenders by opposing the Iraq war, was running fourth in Iowa in a recent Des Moines Register poll behind rivals Mitt Romney, Rudy Giuliani, and Mike Huckabee, and tied with John McCain.

Citing the Constitution as his guide, Paul opposes law enforcement or anti-terrorism measures that he believes encroach on civil liberties. His views on small government extend to reducing if not eliminating the Education Department and the Department of Homeland Security. And he favors limiting immigration and strengthening border security.

Kent Redfield, a professor of political studies at the University of Illinois at Springfield, said in a telephone interview that Paul's strong fundraising numbers demonstrate how grass-roots efforts via the Internet can help lesser known candidates compete on a more equal footing to higher profile contenders.

"It's a model for other candidates on how to get on the radar and meet the basic threshold of moving beyond being a niche or vanity candidate," he said. "But he'll have to show in New Hampshire and in the caucuses that he can build on that."

Paul said he expects his poll numbers to move up. He has devoted a significant amount of resources on ad buys in the early states of New Hampshire and Iowa.

"People are just starting to think about how they are going to vote in these primaries," Paul said. "The people are really annoyed with conventional politics and we are spending this money. We are spending it in Iowa. So I think those polls are going to continue to shift. Our numbers are going up."
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